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Transcripts from the Prime Ministers of Australia

Howard, John

Period of Service: 11/03/1996 - 03/12/2007
Release Date:
24/02/2000
Release Type:
Interview
Transcript ID:
11495
Released by:
  • Howard, John Winston
TRANSCRIPT OF THE PRIME MINISTER THE HON JOHN HOWARD MP DOORSTOP INTERVIEW, PERTH WA

Subjects: employment, tax reform, safe injecting rooms; economy; gambling;

mandatory sentencing.

E&OE..........................................................................................

JOURNALIST:

We were wondering if we could ask you about Labor's jobs policy.

They've said that unemployment will stay between 7% and 8% unless

there are changes. Can we get it lower?

PRIME MINISTER:

Yes. We can get unemployment lower in this country if we continue to

have strong economic growth, if we continue to have tax reform, if we

continue to generate more jobs. This government has created 600,000 in

the four years that it's been in office. We've increased the

number of apprentices. We've increased the number of people in TAFE

colleges. We've announced today a contribution towards an information

technology skills institute, the very sort of thing that was being talked

about yesterday. I mean we have the runs on the board. We have from the

Labor Party a piece of un-costed pie in the sky rhetoric. We have the

runs on the board. I mean unemployment now is lower than it has been for

a decade and that is as a result of the government's policies. And

we could drive it lower. We could generate more jobs in small business

if only the Labor Party would support our further reforms to the unfair

dismissal laws.

JOURNALIST:

Can we get it to 5% as Peter Costello suggested?

PRIME MINISTER:

We can get it lower if we maintain economic growth and if we have further

industrial relations reforms like getting rid of the silly unfair dismissal

laws that frighten small business out of taking on more people.

JOURNALIST:

What's your reaction to the UN's findings on safe injecting

rooms?

PRIME MINISTER:

Well they are no surprise to me. I don't support injecting rooms.

I never have. And I won't because I think they send the wrong signal.

But ultimately this is a matter that has to be resolved in Australia just

as other things must ultimately be resolved in Australia by Australians.

JOURNALIST:

So what was your response then to claims that the UN board was in fact

influenced by your opposition to the shooting galleries?

PRIME MINISTER:

Were you referring to the comments made by Professor Pennington? Well

they're wrong. I reject that completely. And I don't think the

professor should have made that claim because he admits he has no evidence

of it. I think it's absurd to suggest that my views would have nobbled

the views of the Narcotics Board. The Narcotics Board has always been

against injecting rooms and it's not surprising to me that they've

repeated that objection. And any suggestion that I intervened to try and

doctor the report is quite wrong and I totally reject it.

JOURNALIST:

On radio this morning you said that it was a matter for States to decide

even thought you personally disagreed [inaudible].

PRIME MINISTER:

No. What we did in the case of the ACT was to say that we would not permit

any breach of a federal law. What I said was that we were not going to

allow any breaches of federal law, but ultimately it was a matter for

the States to decide that they go ahead with injecting rooms. There's

a different principle. We're not going to use the external affairs

power to overturn things like injecting rooms. But if the injecting rooms

were a breach of a federal law then we wouldn't allow it, but my

advice is that they are not. They are entirely within the province of

the States. I mean we've got to get to a stage in this country where

governments are accountable for their own responsibilities. This absurd

thing that every time something goes wrong you go running off to the federal

government and say fix it. We are a federation. We have States and they

demand the right to have their own say on things, well they have to accept

responsibility. And if people are unhappy with what the New South Wales

government's doing or the Western Australian government's doing,

well they have a remedy at the next State election in New South Wales

and Western Australia, not that I'm suggesting they vote against

the Western Australian government although I'd be happy if they voted

against the New South Wales government.

JOURNALIST:

Prime Minister, you were also asked on radio by a pensioner to give a

guarantee [inaudible] would not be worse off under the GST. Can you give

that guarantee?

PRIME MINISTER:

Oh look pensioners will be better off under the GST. Pensioners will

be much better off because they will get a 4% up front increase, they

will get savings bonuses and all sorts of additional benefits. So generally

speaking I can certainly promise that they will be better off.

JOURNALIST:

What do you make of Dennis Burke's comments that the judiciary in

the Northern Territory is corrupt? Do you think he should at least stand

down as Attorney-General?

PRIME MINISTER:

Well Dennis Burke has dealt with that and there's nothing more that

need be added. Okay.

JOURNALIST:

Mr Howard, on the strength of the economy, things are looking pretty

good. International growth is feeding expectations. Does this mean we'll

be pleasantly surprised in the next year with the strength of Australia's

economy?

PRIME MINISTER:

Well the Australian economy is very strong now. It's very strong.

And that is a result of the government's policies. And we don't

want it wrecked by increasing income taxes Mr Beazley is threatening to

do. And the next thing to be done to make the Australian economy good

and strong is to reform the tax system. Now the people of Australia were

told about our plans at the last election. We won that election and we

are implementing that plan. And instead of sniping and snarling, and behaving

like a political guerilla on the subject, the Opposition Leader should

support us. I mean these guerilla tactics are just silly. They should

accept it, that the Australian people voted for our tax plan. And instead

of trying to spoil it they should accept the verdict of the Australian

people.

JOURNALIST:

But in terms of the outlook for growth are we still looking strong?

PRIME MINISTER:

Well we are still looking very strong but I never take anything for granted.

But we will only remain strong if we follow the right policies. If we

give up on tax reform, if we give up on industrial relations reform, if

we encourage an outbreak of a 36 hour week claims as the new Labor government

in Victoria is doing then we will put a cloud over that continued strong

economic growth.

JOURNALIST:

Prime Minister, we saw the tragedy the other day [inaudible] where a

baby was in a car while the mother was [inaudible] gambling. [inaudible]

New South Wales has announced they will be putting signs up in carparks.

Are they adequate measures do you think to sort of prevent this happening

again?

PRIME MINISTER:

Well adopting what I said a moment ago perhaps you should first direct

that question to the State government because the State governments have

ultimate control in relation to gambling. We're going to....

JOURNALIST:

[inaudible] strong views on gambling.

PRIME MINISTER:

Well I've got very strong views. I think there are a lot of social

evils that flow from the abuse of gambling. And any government that encourages

over reliance on gambling has a lot to answer for. And I think some State

governments have done that and I think it does vary from State to State.

I think when you look at the record there's been less encouragement

in this State, in Western Australian than in many others. So in that sense

the Western Australian government has a better record than a number of

the other State governments. And I am disturbed about it. I don't

want to talk about the individual case because it's now before the

courts and it wouldn't be appropriate for me to do so. But there's

no doubt in the world that abuse of gambling has huge social consequences

and there are lots of people who can't afford to, that are gripped

in gambling. And all of us have a responsibility. Now it's not easy

because you're trying to persuade people to change their habits and

that is a long slow laborious process, and you don't achieve it overnight

by some narrow response. You have to over a period of time educate people

of the dangers and try and reduce the reliance of States on gambling revenue

and that's one of the advantages of the GST. What the GST will do

over time is give the States a steadily rising source of revenue, and

they won't have to rely as much on things like gambling into the

future. It's another reason, another social reason why we should

have tax reform in this country.

JOURNALIST:

Does that give the State governments the incentive to perhaps roll back

the extent of gambling that some States have allowed?

PRIME MINISTER:

What I will say is this – that they will have more revenue out of

the GST over time and they ought therefore to have more flexibility in

other areas.

JOURNALIST:

[inaudible]

PRIME MINISTER:

Well I would like to see governments with the additional GST revenue

improve government schools, hospitals, police services, and I would also

like to see over time a reduced reliance on gambling revenue. Of course

I would.

JOURNALIST:

Does that mean cutting the number of machines......

PRIME MINISTER:

No look, you're asking for me to comment on the details of individual

State government policies and I'm just not in a position to do anything

because I don't know enough about it.

JOURNALIST:

Mandatory sentencing, will the Attorney-General actually be writing....?

PRIME MINISTER:

Oh yes yes, he'll be writing to them?

JOURNALIST:

But when will he be doing that?

PRIME MINISTER:

I think he might be doing it today.

JOURNALIST:

Why do you feel there's a role for him to interfere into the operation

of the States where as you've just been arguing in other cases that

States [inaudible]?

PRIME MINISTER:

Just because you write people letters doesn't mean to say you're

using the external affairs power to overturn a law.

[Ends]

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