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Transcripts from the Prime Ministers of Australia

Howard, John

Period of Service: 11/03/1996 - 03/12/2007
Release Date:
28/05/1999
Release Type:
Interview
Transcript ID:
11145
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  • Howard, John Winston
TRANSCRIPT OF THE PRIME MINISTER THE HON JOHN HOWARD MP PRESS CONFERENCE - PARLIAMENT HOUSE

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PRIME MINISTER:

Ladies and gentlemen, the Treasurer and I have called this press conference

to announce that the Government and the Australian Democrats have

concluded an agreement which will secure the passage of the Government's

historic reforms to change and modernise and improve Australia's taxation

system. This is a truly historic moment in the economic modernisation

of Australia. We will have, after the passage of the legislation,

a new tax system for a new century.

The agreement follows lengthy discussions between the Treasurer and

myself on behalf of the Government and Senator Meg Lees and Senator

Andrew Murray on behalf of the Australian Democrats and at various

stages my colleagues, John Anderson and Robert Hill, were also involved.

All major elements of the original plan remain. The principal changes

are the exclusion of basic food and the restructuring of proposals

concerning diesel fuel in response to some strongly put views by the

Australian Democrats on environmental issues.

The full measure of the income tax cuts for middle Australia contained

in the original plan have been preserved. That means that 80 per cent

of Australian taxpayers will after the 1st of July next

year pay a marginal rate of income tax of no higher than 30 per cent.

It will represent a massive injection of incentive into middle Australia.

It will reward the hardworking backbone of the Australian nation which

represents those families in particular.

The family benefits have been maintained in full. The special savings

bonus for self-funded retirees will now be available to self-funded

retirees from the age of 55. The compensation arrangements under the

original plan have been strengthened. The generational reform of the

Commonwealth/State financial accord remains. The States will, as promised,

receive the full revenue from the GST. There has been some rescheduling

and deferral of a number of the indirect taxes. But the abolition,

of course, of the wholesale sales tax will go ahead and the deferral

will be in relation to the bank account debits tax, a small deferral

of six months in relation to the financial institutions duty, the

abolition of stamp duty on share transactions and bed taxes will go

ahead as announced in the ANTS package.

It was in this room on the 13th of August 1997 that I announced

that the Government would commence the reform process for the Australian

taxation system. And now and almost two years later that process is

in reach of finalisation. I set out then in August of 1997 five principles.

Every one of those principles has been met. There has been no increase

in the overall tax burden, there have been significant income tax

cuts particularly for Australians raising children. We have introduced

a broad-based indirect tax to replace the wholesales sales tax and

other indirect taxes. There has been very appropriate compensation

for those deserving of special consideration and there has been a

truly historic reform of Commonwealth/State financial relations.

I express an undisguised pleasure at today's outcome. It has been

a very long process. We have been able to achieve, I believe, 85 to

90 per cent of the plan that was endorsed by the Australian people.

It was inevitable after the indication from Senator Harradine that

some adjustment would be needed. I believe nonetheless and the Government

believes very strongly that there are enormous benefits for the Australian

community as a result of the agreement that has been concluded today.

I would like to record my appreciation of the role adopted by the

Leader of the Australian Democrats, Senator Meg Lees. At all stages

I have found her forthright, honest, candid, adopting a sensible no

nonsense approach to the discussions, recognising differences where

they exist but seeking common ground where that has been possible

to achieve. And I do particularly want to record my appreciation for

the very constructive attitude that she has adopted.

I also want to record my particular appreciation, not only over the

past week but also over the last two years of the role played by the

Treasurer who is with me tonight. He has been a source of constant

support. He has displayed a great skill and mastery of the detail

of what after all has been the biggest and most complex economic reform

that any government has embraced for many decades.

I would also take the opportunity of recording my appreciation to

Arthur Sinodinos, my Chief of Staff who has played an invaluable role

over the last week in particular in liaison with the Australian Democrats;

Michael L'Estrange the head of the Cabinet Office and from my own

Department, Ian Watt and Patricia Scott. And I know that the Treasurer

will want to say something about the Treasury taskforce at the head

of his Department.

But it is a great breakthrough for Australia. The Australian Democrats

over the last week have displayed a commitment to the national interest.

And that is in stark contrast to the official opposition and that

is the Australian Labor Party who's vituperative negativity has confirmed

their continuing irrelevance from major policy debate in this country.

They stand condemned for that. I thank the Australian Democrats for

putting the national interests ahead of partisan political point scoring

and I believe that the Australian people will pay them true respect

and true regard.

But above all, this is a great outcome for middle Australia. They

have a big tax cut, they have a new tax system, they have a generational

change in Commonwealth/State financial relations and more importantly

they're facing the capacity of the political process to deliver enduring

outcomes across occasionally political divides has been restored in

a quite dramatic way.

JOURNALIST:

Prime Minister, does the Senate need reforming so this doesn't happen

again?

PRIME MINISTER:

Oh, look, I don't have Senate reform on my mind.

JOURNALIST:

Will you bring the Parliament back early next week?

PRIME MINISTER:

The understanding between us, which will be revealed in all the documentation

we'll make available, the understanding is that the Democrats

will support passage of the legislation by the 30th of

June. And that was the understanding at the beginning of the discussions,

and I should say that the measures you will see indicate a very strong

investment and commitment to environmental issues, which I believe

will receive very wide support in the Australian community. And there

has been a proper regard paid in the discussions that we've had

for the concerns of the Australian Democrats about elements of the

original package. But we have agreed that we will pass it by the 30th

of June.

JOURNALIST:

Is the compensation...

PRIME MINISTER:

Well given everything it's excellent. You have a look at it.

It's a world beater.

JOURNALIST:

What does this mean for the budget forecasts? Will these be changed

by the package?

PRIME MINISTER:

Well obviously the budget is about next year. This doesn't start

until the 1st of July the following year. Peter may want

to something.

TREASURER:

In relation to that the budget for 1999-2000, which is the budget

we brought down two weeks ago, is essentially unchanged. The cost

of the measures, and the offsets will have some affect on the budget

position in the following year, 2000-2001. But it's imminently

affordable. It is of the order of the package which was put together

for Senator Harradine. And it is consistent with our strategy to keep

delivering surplus budgets while the Australian economy grows, and

to retire and reduce debt.

JOURNALIST:

Prime Minister, you and the Treasurer have previously said it wasn't

possible to remove from the tax. Why wasn't it possible before

and it's possible now?

PRIME MINISTER:

Well our preference always was to have the original package, and everything

I've said, and the Treasurer has said in relation to that is

entirely consistent with that position. But that became impossible

of achievement two weeks ago.

JOURNALIST:

How are you going to fix the compliance nightmare...?

PRIME MINISTER:

Well there will be consultations with those involved, in applying

the tax on some of their items and not on others. There obviously

will be challenges in that area and we'll be consulting on that.

But in the end with these things you have to make a judgement. Is

it in the national interest to walk away because you don't get

100%, or is it in the national interest to strive and persevere and

try and get 85-90%? Now the answer to that is overwhelmingly obvious.

And that is to do what we tried to do and we succeeded in doing, and

succeeded against the expectations of our political opponents who

are now marooned in their irrelevance.

JOURNALIST:

[inaudible]

PRIME MINISTER:

It is very pro environmental, and importantly it preserves benefits

for the bush contained in the last package. And in one area, namely

the extension of the concessional excise rate for off road purposes

to rail, it actually enhances the benefits for the bush.

JOURNALIST:

So is it a better outcome than your original plan?

PRIME MINISTER:

Well there are in environmental respects, the outcome is better. Obviously

in relation to the total uniformity of the application of the GST

you know our preference. I mean, we're not pretending that we

didn't have a preference for the former plan, we did. And that's

the one we won the election on and that's the one we would have

liked to have put through but we found out two weeks ago that we couldn't

do that and then we decided to talk to the Australian Democrats. And

that was the correct sequence in which to handle things.

JOURNALIST:

Is the outcome better, Prime Minister, on fairness in terms of the

original design of the compensation measures and relying heavily on

indirect taxes?

PRIME MINISTER:

They were both fair, both fair.

JOURNALIST:

Is this fairer?

PRIME MINISTER:

Well, you can make a judgement about that, Paul. I certainly believe

if you have a package where your tax breaks for middle Australia and

low-income earners are preserved and you've enhanced the compensation,

I don't think anybody could argue that fairness has been neglected.

I think it's a very – I mean, the original package was fair

but this is super fair.

JOURNALIST:

Will you need to call the Premiers together now to discuss it?

PRIME MINISTER:

Oh, you don't need a Premiers' Conference. I mean, I will

get in touch with the Premiers and there are a few, you know, changes

– their funding arrangements remain in tact. They still get the

same deal. I mean, they will love it because it will give them a growth

tax. And the sensible welfare people will love it too because this

Government has provided a long-term lifeline for the funding of welfare

in Australia and it's giving a growth tax to the States. No other

government has achieved that. And Premiers of both political persuasions

have been screaming for that for decades.

JOURNALIST:

Prime Minister, given that you said the tax cuts will remain in their

entirety, how are you going to pay for removing food?

PRIME MINISTER:

Well, I said that those under 50,000, there's been a shaving

in relation to the 47 cent rate, instead of coming in at 75,000 will

come in at 60 and the 40 cent rate at 50 will go to 42 but everything

under 50 remains completely in tact. I think you ought to have a look

at the document. You'll see it all set out there.

JOURNALIST:

Are you prepared to go through this sort of agony for every other

piece of your reform programme - industrial relations, sale of Telstra

- between now and the next election?

PRIME MINISTER:

Tonight is not agony. It's sweet political enjoyment of the most

exotic kind.

JOURNALIST:

Would you [inaudible] thermometer?

TREASURER:

Look, the truth of the matter is that there'll be more complexity

in operating a GST which has exemption for some foods. And as we say

in our package, that will require additional costs. We think for the

Tax Office that will require about an extra $60 million a year. That

is one of the consequences of having a less comprehensive base so

we'll need more people to enforce it. But we still have time

to, respecting the principles that we've agreed to, to make sure

that the legislation is as simple as possible. We'll be trying

to draw clear lines of delineation in doing that.

JOURNALIST:

Will you be setting [inaudible] with thermometers?

TREASURER:

Oh, I think they can probably use their fingers, you know, much less

scientific than thermometers.

JOURNALIST:

Prime Minister, basic food, can you give a commitment or are you prepared

to say it's off the agenda permanently?

PRIME MINISTER:

Oh look, this is it.

JOURNALIST:

Has anything else exempted from the GST?

PRIME MINISTER:

Oh, there's a few of those panadols and so forth.

TREASURER:

And there's some minor ones in relation to health, in relation

to what's on the S2 list but other than that the base is more

or less in tact.

JOURNALIST:

[Inaudible] how closely does that stick to the Irish model that the

Democrats put up?

TREASURER:

Reasonably closely.

PRIME MINISTER:

Reasonably closely. I'm not saying it's a, it's not

a northern Irish model.

TREASURER:

Can I just interrupt there. The Prime Minister did advert earlier

and I would like to add my personal thanks to the Prime Minister for

the work he and his staff have done, to Senator Lees and Senator Murray

for their co-operation and particularly to my own staff, Phil Gaetjens

who headed-up the tax unit and the Treasury people, Greg Smith and

his team who've done a terrific job and they really have worked

incredibly hard. And the truth of the matter is, as the Prime Minister

says, 85 per cent of the biggest tax reform in Australia's history

is worth it and it sure beats zero per cent. And we come out of this

with tax reform which has eluded previous governments. We don't

come out with everything we wanted or everything we put to the Australian

people but 85 per cent of Australia's biggest tax reform ever

is something that I think we can all say was worth it for our country.

JOURNALIST:

Mr Costello, do you have a new-found respect for the Democrats economically?

TREASURER:

Look, I have a respect for the way in which they have sat down and

brought their minds to bear on this and I think done something important

for our country. And I just contrast that with the Labor Party. What

is the Labor Party's view on this? The Labor Party's view

on this is, let them fix the tax system and then we Labor will try

and take advantage of it. And the thing about the Democrats, where

they stand miles in front, the Australian Democrats, is they were

part of making it happen. They didn't want to just come along

and gratuitously fall into the benefits. They were prepared to be

part of making it happen and I pay tribute to them for doing that.

JOURNALIST:

Prime Minister, is there a mechanism to lock in the food exemption

for all time?

PRIME MINISTER:

This is it.

JOURNALIST:

Mr Howard, when did you decide that exempting food would be a fair

price to pay for...

PRIME MINISTER:

When did I decide? Well, I had hoped, Denis, until two weeks ago that

I could have got the original package. Now, when Brian Harradine said

that he could not I then set about talking to the Australian Democrats.

I mean, we did canvass with them whether they would be agreeable to

have a lower rate for food. That was one of the items. And they made

it clear that they wouldn't. I mean, I knew once we entered the

negotiation, like any negotiation, there had to be some give and take

on both sides. There had to be an acceptance on their part of the

centrality to our thinking and our goals of tax relief for middle

Australia. Equally, we knew how strongly they felt about basic food

and about a number of the environmental aspects of the package. And

it was an honourably brokered compromise and it delivered, as Peter

said, 85 to 90 per cent of what we set out to do. And given some of

the vagaries of the Australian parliamentary and electoral process,

in an area as complex and difficult and an area that has defeated

government after government on both sides of Australian politics for

the last 25 years, it's an extraordinary outcome. I mean, Ken

Asprey started the process in 1975 when he delivered his report to

the Fraser Government. That was just a year after I came into Parliament.

And at long last we have within grasp an historic reform of Australia's

taxation system. Now, it was worth toiling for, it was worth working

for. It wouldn't have been possible without the constructive

national interest approach of the Australian Democrats. It wouldn't

have been possible without all the effort and sweat of my colleague,

the Treasurer, and all of us over the last couple of years. But you

are in government to do good things for the country. You are in government

to make reforms to improve. Once you lose the zeal and the drive to

do that, and that applies both in opposition as in government, you

become an irrelevance and that has a message for the Australian Labor

Party. They are nowhere in this debate. What do they believe in? What

do they stand for? They just tried to drag things down, frustrate

and impede and destroy. And they're not an alternative government.

JOURNALIST:

Prime Minister, what assurance can you give regional Australian, Prime

Minister, that they won't be worse off under this version of

the package than they would have been under the original?

PRIME MINISTER:

Well, they will be better off.

JOURNALIST:

How?

PRIME MINISTER:

Well, have a look at it, Karen. I mean, to start with, the rail thing

is – well, you'll get it as soon as it's over –

exactly, your deadline's much easier – the extension of

the off-road for rail is, for example, is something that wasn't

in the original package. Now, I think that's about it. I think

Senator Lees wants to have a talk to you. Thank you very, very much

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