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Transcripts from the Prime Ministers of Australia

Howard, John

Period of Service: 11/03/1996 - 03/12/2007
Release Date:
13/11/1999
Release Type:
Interview
Transcript ID:
11030
Released by:
  • Howard, John Winston
TRANSCRIPT OF THE PRIME MINISTER THE HON JOHN HOWARD MP DOORSTOP INTERVIEW THE ROYAL HOTEL - DURBAN, SOUTH AFRICA

E&OE............

Well, anything you want to ask me before I go off to this beautiful mountain

retreat, or it's not a mountain retreat, it's a beautiful country retreat.

JOURNALIST:

How has the CHOGM sessions been going this morning, Sir? Any developments?

PRIME MINISTER:

Well, largely a focus this morning on the international economic outlook,

the importance of making certain that globalisation takes people along with

it. There's a general recognition that globalisation is a fact of life but

there's an understandable concern on the part of the less developed countries

that the benefits of globalisation are not going to be spread around evenly.

And that is something that all of us have got to be sensitive towards. Our

view very strongly is that the Seattle World Trade Round must go ahead to

produce a comprehensive further relaxation particularly in the area of agriculture.

But I can understand and sympathise with the concern of the less developed

countries that the benefits of globalisation are not always apparent. And

that puts an obligation on all of those more developed countries and very

developed countries such as Australia to cooperate in the processes of explaining

and understanding the benefits. And that's one of the reasons why we launched

an initiative at the Edinburgh conference two years ago. And I'll be making

a couple of announcements tomorrow at the final session that will underline

our desire to help the less developed countries improve their governance

and generally to have a better understanding of the benefits of more liberalised

trade not only for them but for the whole world.

JOURNALIST:

Do you think that that concern by the less developed countries about the

impact of globalisation will hinder your chances of getting some sort of

clear statement from CHOGM about the need for a new trade round?

PRIME MINISTER:

Oh, I don't think there will be any doubt that there will be a statement

of general support for the new trade round. A grouping as diverse as the

Commonwealth is bound to produce a range of views on how far you should

go in particular directions but I am sure there'll be a general support

for a successful outcome out of the World Trade Organisation. We really

don't have any option. Globalisation is with us, it's a fact of life. Nobody

has an option of saying, well, I won't take globalisation, I'll take something

else because there isn't anything else. It's the paradigm under which the

world operates now and we can't avoid it. It's a question of understanding

it and it's a question of every community in its own way making certain

that it's citizens understand and that where we can we even out the bumps

and we soften the blow whilst continuing to go forward.

JOURNALIST:

Mr Howard, is it beneficial for Australia that the new secretary-general

is from our part of the world?

PRIME MINISTER:

Is that..

JOURNALIST:

Mr McKinnon.

PRIME MINISTER:

Yes, but what was the first bit you said?

JOURNALIST:

Well, is it beneficial to Australia?

PRIME MINISTER:

Oh, look, I know Don McKinnon well, I think he'll do a very good job. But

I don't look at these things in terms of regional prejudice. He was the

person who Australia supported. I think Chief Anyaoku has done a wonderful

job. He, of course, defeated an Australian for the job 10 years ago but

I think he has done an excellent job and I think Mr McKinnon will. I don't

think it matters where the person comes from. As I said last night, one

of the great advantages of the Commonwealth from our point of view is that

it gives us an engagement with Africa and this part of the world, the whole

African continent, and that we wouldn't otherwise have because absent some

of the sporting links, and they are limited largely but not totally to South

Africa, we don't have a lot of links with this part of the world. And I

have found the window into the African mind that this conference has provided

is one of the more important and one of the more beneficial aspects of the

meeting.

JOURNALIST:

Mr Howard, on trade, do you think that it is now harder to make progress

on liberalising trade than it was a few years ago and did you make your

full contribution on trade today in the debate or is that still to come?

PRIME MINISTER:

Oh, my greater contribution on that will be at the retreat. I think that's

the time for the less set piece contributions and the more important exchanges.

Do I think it's harder now? I think it's always hard because communities

are, by nature, more protectionist than they are open trade because there's

a natural human belief that if you put up a barrier you protect what you

have without realising that what you have can disappear in other ways unless

you make yourself more competitive. It's always difficult to sell the benefits

of trade liberalisation but I would say to the Australian public that one

the reasons why our economy is so strong now is that it is more open. If

we had not been as competitive and as efficient over the last couple of

years we would have succumbed to the Asian economic downturn. It was the

opening up of our economy through a succession of measures by governments

on both sides of politics and especially the measures we've taken over the

last few years that have gave us the strength to withstand the tide.

JOURNALIST:

Prime Minister, what will your priorities be and what do you hope to achieve

out of the retreat?

PRIME MINISTER:

Well, an emphasis on the human values part of the Commonwealth. I mean,

the Commonwealth has proved itself to be quite a protector of the common

values system of a democratic approach to life. I think it's played a significant

role. I mean, years ago in relation to South Africa, more recently in relation

to Nigeria and now in relation to Pakistan, of asserting the importance

of the democratic process for all citizens irrespective of their colour

and I think that's important. I think the other value of the retreat is

to talk perhaps in a more relaxed, direct, pragmatic fashion about some

of the trade challenges and perhaps to assuage some of those who are more

sceptical about the value of a more open trading system.

JOURNALIST:

Do you have any bilateral meetings with anybody in particular..

PRIME MINISTER:

Well, I expect to have a number of bilaterals. I have had a number of bilateral

meetings already. I mean, the nature of these conferences you suddenly find

yourself having a bilateral meeting over dinner or over a cup of tea and

I had a very lengthy discussion last night about politics and so forth with

Mr Blair and I've had some with Mr Chretien. And I am having a formal meeting

with the Indian Prime Minister this afternoon and I'll be having a formal

bilateral meeting with the President of South Africa who I hope will visit

Australia in the next couple of years. I'll be renewing an invitation to

him to do so next year. He did come as Vice-President in 1995 but he'd be

very welcome in our country. And I had a bilateral meeting yesterday with

Mr Goh Chok Tong, the Prime Minister of Singapore and I expect to accumulate

even more bilaterals as the day wears on.

JOURNALIST:

Mr Howard, has CHOGM talked about what to do about Pakistan or are you expecting

that to be..

PRIME MINISTER:

Yes, yes. We had quite a lengthy discussion about Pakistan. I think people

would like to see an acceptance within Pakistan and the need to return to

democracy. I don't think people want to do anything of precipitate but there

are naturally great concerns about what has occurred and the pressure of

Commonwealth opinion will play some part in conditioning the attitude of

people within Pakistan.

JOURNALIST:

[Inaudible] some parts of the Commonwealth to apply sanctions? You told

us yesterday you were.

PRIME MINISTER:

Not at the moment, there's no really strong push to apply economic sanctions,

no.

JOURNALIST:

So is the suspension likely to continue?

PRIME MINISTER:

Well, the suspension continues, yes.

JOURNALIST:

You mentioned the democratic issue proposed at George..

PRIME MINISTER:

Yes.

JOURNALIST:

Yesterday you seemed to be quite cautious about applying.giving new powers

to the Council of Ministers to pursue these issues, are you moving towards.

PRIME MINISTER:

No, I am just always.you have to understand that one of the traditions of

the Commonwealth is that it doesn't seek in a supranational way to impose

its decisions on individual members, it seeks to use persuasion and example

and cajolery but it doesn't set itself up as a supranational body.

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