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Howard, John

Period of Service: 11/03/1996 - 03/12/2007
Release Date:
23/06/1998
Release Type:
Interview
Transcript ID:
10737
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  • Howard, John Winston
23 June 1998 TRANSCRIPT OF THE PRIME MINISTER THE HON JOHN HOWARD MP PRESS CONFERENCE - PARLIAMENT HOUSE AUSTRALIAN INLAND RAIL EXPRESSWAY SYSTEM

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Well, ladies and gentlemen, I have called this news conference to

announce that the Australian Inland Railway Express System is taking

another significant step towards becoming reality. And if it does

become reality, will deliver thousands of new jobs, investment and

infrastructure to regional Australia. It'll provide high speed

rail links with potential for adding a natural gas pipeline. And if

it proves to be feasible it will extend from Melbourne to Darwin,

while also providing high speed links from Brisbane to Melbourne and

Sydney to Melbourne.

And I am delighted to say that Australian Transport and Energy Corridor

Pty Ltd (ATEC), which is chaired by Mr Everald Compton, who is on

the stage with me, which first proposed this project, has signed an

agreement with Abigroup whose Deputy Chairman, Mr Lloyd Lang, is with

us today, which subject to feasibility, will allow Abigroup to take

the project through to completion.

The next step is to provide, after about a year, a full feasibility

report to the five governments and seek approval to proceed to detailed

planning. It is anticipated that if the project proceeds it will be

finalised by the year 2004 and I congratulate the private sector interests

that have been active in being involved in this project from the time

it was conceived by the people who comprised ATEC. Such a project,

if it comes to fruition, is one of those things that comes once in

a generation. It would open up new industries and jobs throughout

regional Australia and it would contribute to a reduction in the cost

of living in regional Australia and it could signal the rebirth of

many communities throughout regional Australia and create tens of

thousands of jobs.

Importantly, Australians will have an opportunity to invest in this

remarkable venture in about two years time because if it goes ahead

a public company owning the railway will be floated allowing Australian

families to be part of this nation building project. The project will

build on the significance efforts the Coalition has already made via

such things as the Darwin to Alice Springs railway, and the $1.25

billion Natural Heritage Trust and the $500 million rural package

to support and help improve conditions in rural and regional Australia.

I would like, in making this announcement, to pay particular tribute

to the energy of Mr Everald Compton who has been the Chairman of this

group and he has also been very energetically assisted by my colleague,

Mal Brough, who, of course, is the Member for Longman and part of

his electorate, I believe, is touched by the route of this railway.

I am also delighted that my old Liberal Party friend, Mr Lloyd Lang,

is here, he is the Deputy Chairman of Abigroup. His greatest contribution

to public and commercial life in Australia was in December of 1973

to be the Chairman of my pre-selection committee when I was chosen

by the Liberal Party to represent the seat of Bennelong at the 1974

elections.

So I am delighted to have these gentlemen present and, of course,

not least to welcome my colleague and friend, the Deputy Prime Minister,

Mr Fischer. I am sure the gentlemen would be very happy to answer

questions, and I will too, about the project and I dare say you might

want to ask me one or two other questions, I'd be very happy

to take those as well.

JOURNALIST:

The proposal appears to leave open the question of the nature of the

line between Sydney and Canberra but it also appears to rule out the

introduction of VFT technology from Sydney to Melbourne. Given the

concern in Victoria about the acquisition of VFT technology in Victoria,

have you spoken to your Party colleagues in Victoria about this matter,

this apparent exclusion of VFT..?

PRIME MINISTER:

Well I don't think it necessarily has that effect but perhaps,

Everald, you might have something to say about that.

EVERALD COMPTON:

Thank you Prime Minister. All infrastructure in Australia should be

supported including a thing like the VFT. It so happens that the Melbourne

to Darwin line makes no sense unless it's hooked into Sydney

as well and we plan to have a link from Temora across to Goulburn

where it will link with the proposed Sydney-Canberra Very Fast Train,

and therefore take the line into Sydney. Now that's being done,

essentially, for freight purposes so that Sydney is linked in with

the Melbourne to Darwin system. It will also mean that on our line

passenger trains will run. And they will probably take four hours

to get from Sydney to Melbourne whereas a very, very fast train might

take three. Now, all we are saying is that having built our line,

which will only cost $500 million to link Temora to Goulburn, we run

freight trains along it and we run passenger trains along it, but

we cheer anyone else who wants to run a train somewhere else.

JOURNALIST:

Is there any public money in this project Mr Howard?

PRIME MINISTER:

Well, there will - public money from the citizens. When the company

is floated there will be a lot of public money in it. At this stage,

the Federal Government's role is a facilitating role, an indication

as I've made in my news release, which I'm sure will be

given to you at the end of the news conference, that the Government's

providing a facilitating role, and of course we'll legislate

to ensure approvals. We're not, at this stage, indicating any

direct financial support. This has always been run as something that

is a project that can stand up on private sector principles.

JOURNALIST:

Mr Howard, what is the inference for the timing of today's announcement,

because looking at the map, the line appears to run through pretty

much every seat that One Nation...?

PRIME MINISTER:

That's a very cynical remark. The timing of it quite simply is

purely coincidental. Mr Brough has been working very hard on this,

all jokes aside, he's been working very hard on this and been

keeping Tim and I very regularly informed as time has gone by, and

I've been talking to Mr Compton. I had dinner with him at the

Lodge a few weeks ago, a few weeks ago, and he brought me up to date.

I mean, our position is that we will adopt a healthy and facilitating

role, consistent with our overall economic responsibilities in relation

to any infrastructure project that private sector interests want to

sponsor. We're not taking sides, we're not picking winners.

We're very keen to help on all fronts and it is purely coincidental

that this announcement should be made today.

TIM FISCHER:

Just on a technicality, from Tennant Creek to Darwin - the Prime Minister

spoke of the facilitation - from Tennant Creek to Darwin, both projects

- the Adelaide to Darwin, and this project, will in fact be sharing

the same set of rails on a common corridor basis.

PRIME MINISTER:

And what's more, I never do a news conference on anything to

do with the railways without Tim being with me.

JOURNALIST:

How does this effect the economics of the already publicly subsidised

proposed Darwin to Alice railway.

PRIME MINISTER:

I don't think it will. I don't think it effects it at all.

EVERALD COMPTON:

Could I first comment on the other question about where this railway

line's going. We started working on this 18 months ago, and it

follows and has been long planned to go through the great productive

areas of Australia. If you look at that map, you'll find that

all the great productive areas west of the Great Divide take that

line. Now, if it so happens it goes through certain electorates, so

be it, but we designed it to pick up freight, not to pick up votes

and I think that's where it is going. And it will develop inland

Australia. With regard to Adelaide to Darwin, again that's another

great infrastructure project which we should all support because we

haven't had a decent infrastructure project in this country since

the Snowy Mountains fifty years ago, and now we are going to get serious

again and get into that sort of development. We will help to make

the Adelaide to Darwin line viable, because we will pay the rent to

get on their line all the way up to their and we'll be running

be more trains than they will up that line and it will make it viable.

And we are going to a totally different freight area to the one that

they are going through, but thank Heavens there are two people trying

to point our freight towards the world. Every railway line ever built

in Australia, with nowhere, now we've got a couple pointing towards

the world with who we'd want to trade, so for Heaven's sake

don't knock either of them.

JOURNALIST:

What are the real chances of this project actually going ahead? 50-50,

75?

EVERALD COMPTON:

Well, as far as I'm concerned it will be built and I'll

take you on the train with me and we'll share a bottle of Grange

Hermitage.

PRIME MINISTER:

I've never seen such an enthusiastic press conference! You can

come to all of my news conferences Everald.

EVERALD COMPTON:

We will build the railway line.

JOURNALIST:

What is the projected cost of the whole project of $500 million that's

required for the Temora link?

EVERALD COMPTON:

It will cost five-and-a-half billion dollars for a single track all

the way. There will obviously be a need for double tracks in certain

high density areas. The technology people tell me that in fact we

could survive on a single track between Melbourne and Darwin because

technology now allows two trains to race towards one another at 500

kilometres an hour and miss one another by half a kilometre, and so

you could do it on one track. So a single track will cost $5.5 billion,

a double track will cost $8.5 billion, which is about the amount of

money that Australians spent in casinos last year.

JOURNALIST:

But surely you are competing with Darwin to Alice in terms of investors

- that's the reality.

EVERALD COMPTON:

The money will come from both of them, because I just made the point

if Australians can invest $8.5 billion in a year, surely we can build

a couple of railway lines. So we're not dealing with any extraordinary

expenditure. I mean, $8.5 billion is just an eight and a five with

a few naughts after it. I mean...

JOURNALIST:

Will there be any foreign investment in this project?

EVERALD COMPTON:

There will be undoubtedly some foreign investment. We believe that

the majority of the investment will be Australian and we set out to

do that. If it happens that it's not that way well that will

be because Australian people and Australian institutions chose not

to invest in it, not because they didn't have the opportunity

to do it. And it the intention of Abigroup who've shown enormous

courage in getting behind, and vision, in getting behind this project

to ensure that we get the maximum possible investment. Abigroup is

totally Australian owned, and my company's totally Australian

owned, we're going to try and keep it that way for the length

of the project.

JOURNALIST:

.. this point in the economy which is about four or five years hence....

PRIME MINISTER:

To whom are you addressing this question.

JOURNALIST:

The Prime Minister. How concerned are you about the short term to

the Australian economy given the situation in Japan at the moment.

PRIME MINISTER:

This is a general question. How concerned? Well, I am obviously concerned

about what is happening in Japan and self-evidently there is a need

for the Japanese Government to proceed very firmly and very resolutely

with addressing the structural problems in that country's banking

system. Now that has been apparent for some time and all the public

and private urgings which go between Australia and Tokyo are to that

effect. I've always been fundamentally optimistic about the Japanese

economy because it has strengths that few economies in the world have,

so my answer to your question is, of course you must have some level

of concern. Don't try and ask me and I'm not going to try

to put some percentage on it. But there is a need for structural reform

and that's been urged on Mr Hashimoto by President Clinton and

it's a view that we have expressed and will continue to express.

JOURNALIST:

When would you expect a project like this in contrast with money printing

ideas that have been floated in the last few weeks, would you expect

a project like this to win back some One Nation supporters?

PRIME MINISTER:

Look I'm not going to put it in the context of One Nation. This

project has been conceived quite in isolation from many political

developments. But there has always been within the Australian community,

because of the vastness of our Nation, a hunger for long term national

development projects. It's one of the deepest things in the emotion

of the Australian people. They talk about the Great Snowy River Scheme,

there is still in all of us a passion to open up and develop and full

access the great inland of our country. We have a particular affection

for that, we have almost a romance with the idea. And therefore a

project like this will have a huge emotional response. Obviously it's

got to be soundly based and it's got to be a commercial project,

and my view is that if people want to promote commercial projects

it's not the job of the Government to pick winners, it's

not the job of the Government to say "hey you can't do that

because it might have that affect on another project". That is

for the commercial forces to work out, but from a Government's

point of view, large national development projects, large infrastructure

projects touch the feeling of the Australian people in a very special

way.

JOURNALIST:

But won't the government be called upon ultimately to give special

tax breaks on a project of this size in the form of infrastructure

problems....

PRIME MINISTER:

Paul, I'm not going to react in advance as to what may or may

not be put to the Government except to say that we will react in a

sensible way and we'll care for the national interest in the

way we're reacting to any requests.

JOURNALIST:

So in relation to the national project you wouldn't rule out

giving special tax breaks which the Treasurer in the past has said

go against the thrust of the Government's reforms.

PRIME MINISTER:

I will give the same answer to that question that I gave to the last

one.

JOURNALIST:

Could you please advise us on the progress on your talks with Senator

Harradine and give us your odds on whether there's a chance that

the Wik Bill could pass through the Senate?

PRIME MINISTER:

I'm not going to give any odds. Senator Harradine spoke to me

last night and I spoke to him again a few moments ago. What he has

put to me so far still leaves a very big gap between what we would

regard as necessary and what he's put forward. I will be seeing

him again this afternoon, I'm very ready and willing to talk

to him at great length. It is an important issue and I will try all

I can consistent with what we believe to be in Australia's interest

to reach an agreement. But I haven't entered a bartering or a

bargaining session. We have already made huge compromises on this

matter. He's put forward a proposal which really does not represent

any significant alteration from the position he occupied before Easter,

but I have arranged to have further talks with him but it would not

be correct at all to say that what has been put forward represents

a large blink or even a medium sized blink. There is still a gap between

us and I'm willing to talk to him about it but I'm certainly

not going to put it any more strongly than that.

JOURNALIST:

If there is no agreement Prime Minister...

PRIME MINISTER:

Well, look let us just go through..., I'm not going to play the

hypothetical.

JOURNALIST:

But would it be in the national interest to have a speedy double dissolution

on this issue?

JOURNALIST:

Did the Partyroom have a post-mortem on the Queensland election and

if so what ...

PRIME MINISTER:

Well we had a very lengthy debate. It was vigorous, even willing,

and that's to be expected because ...

JOURNALIST:

Did you get the (inaudible) from backbenchers.

PRIME MINISTER:

I'll start again. It was quite vigorous, even willing. The messages

were multitudinous and there was lot of advice given to the Government

and I welcome that. I thought it was a very good meeting. People were

concerned about the vote obtained by One Nation. That's understandable.

I reminded them that we are now living in a completely different political

environment than has obtained in the past: that politics is a lot

less tribal; you can expect greater volatility; people are no longer

rusted onto the parties of their parents, and therefore they are more

likely to be attracted by simplistic populous solutions. It's

quite clear that some of the attitudes taken by One Nation have touched

some ugly sentiments in the Australian community and we are all united

in our rejection of those and I refer, of course, to the extent to

which on occasions remarks are made which encourage feelings of racial

prejudice or bigotry.

I don't however believe, and nor do my colleagues believe, for

a moment that the great majority of people who voted for One Nation

hold those views at all. But it can often be the case that people

can vote for an organisation for an entirely separate set of reasons

than the objectives of some of the people involved in that organisation.

The best way to destroy One Nation is to reclaim the affections of

those who supported it, that's self-evident, and many of those

people are of course former Coalition voters. I pointed out to my

colleagues it was natural that after the enormous wall-to-wall publicity

One Nation has received over the last few weeks it was natural it

would enjoy a surge in opinion polls. I'd have been quite astonished

as a politician who's been around for 24 years if that hadn't

been the case. I might also remind you that five weeks ago today the

Newspoll showed the Coalition in almost as strong a position as it

was in March of 1996. Now that's some measure of the volatility

of the political climate in which we are living. We can't dismiss

it, but we mustn't in any way be overwhelmed by it. And if you

really want to give One Nation momentum you behave as though their

momentum to date has forced you to radically change course away from

something that you believe is correct. Now you have to have a combination

of responses. You have to make it perfectly clear that you won't

have any truck with extremist views and you won't have any coalitions.

And I have to say that the headline in The Australian this

morning suggesting however indirectly that I was going to be involved

in some coalition or arrangement with One Nation is something I reject

totally. I won't be, never. I'll only every be in Coalition

with one party and that's the National Party. The question of

dealing with Senators after a subsequent Senate election I'd

be like any other Government. The Labor party in Government talked

to a lot of people that didn't like and continued to do so. That

any suggestion that in some way we will give a wink or a nod to One

Nation is quite wrong. We're in the business of winning votes

for the Liberal Party and the National Party and denying support to

our natural enemies, the Australian Labor Party. And that's the

guiding principle of how we're going to behave.

JOURNALIST:

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