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Transcripts from the Prime Ministers of Australia

Howard, John

Period of Service: 11/03/1996 - 03/12/2007
Release Date:
21/07/1998
Release Type:
Interview
Transcript ID:
10727
Released by:
  • Howard, John Winston
TRANSCRIPT OF THE PRIME MINISTER THE HON JOHN HOWARD MP DOORSTOP INTERVIEW ALL SEASONS INTERNATIONAL, BENDIGO

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JOURNALIST:

Prime Minister, what do you make of Peter Costello's remarks

(inaudible) about taking over the leadership?

PRIME MINISTER:

Oh, I guess with a big party when you have done a lot of things

and you are pursuing a very active reform agenda you will always

get a few rumblings.

JOURNALIST:

But Mr Costello hasn't outrightly denied that that's

the case. Is that a concern to you?

PRIME MINISTER:

No.

JOURNALIST:

........there are some in your party who may have done that.

PRIME MINISTER:

Glenn, in any political party you'll always have, particularly

if it's big and a big majority, you'll always have a few

people who are a bit unhappy with the boss, that's always the

case. Bob Menzies had it, every Prime Minister's had it. I

am not concerned by it at all.

JOURNALIST:

Prime Minister, has the Treasurer passed on any of those rumblings

to you?

PRIME MINISTER:

We have a lot of discussions. The Treasurer has been a very good

Treasurer and a very good Deputy, and a very good friend.

JOURNALIST:

Prime Minister, what came out of the Cabinet meetings with regards

to Telstra?

PRIME MINISTER:

We are still part heard. We are still going on, the meeting, that

is.

JOURNALIST:

Will you go to the next election seeking a mandate for the full

sale of Telstra?

PRIME MINISTER:

Didn't you hear my speech, Michael?

JOURNALIST:

Yes. Same question.

PRIME MINISTER:

Really? I have lost my powers of advocacy, the answer is yes.

JOURNALIST:

Is it more likely now the Government will sell Telstra in stages

and the next tranche will take it up to 49 per cent?

PRIME MINISTER:

Fleur, that was always going to be on the cards. It was never going

to be possible to sort of do it all at once. Never.

JOURNALIST:

Is 49 per cent a good figure to take it up to?

PRIME MINISTER:

I like 51, particularly when it comes to elections.

JOURNALIST:

Prime Minister, how is it in any way helpful for your Deputy to

publicly acknowledge that there are people after your job?

PRIME MINISTER:

I think people are always after the top job in politics. There's

nothing unusual about that. I mean, I'd be the last person

in Australian political life to decry ambition.

JOURNALIST:

So have you spoken to the Treasurer about his remarks this morning?

PRIME MINISTER:

No, I don't see any particular need as of now to have done

so.

JOURNALIST:

Won't those rumblings increase though while the polls stay

so low?

PRIME MINISTER:

Oh look, the polls are no good at the moment. I understand that

but they'll get better and we'll win the election but

it was inevitable in the wake of what happened in Queensland that

some people were going to get disoriented and some people were going

to run around a little bit in disorder but that'll settle down,

and particularly when the tax package is released.

JOURNALIST:

But the polls aren't a short-term thing though, your Government

has been showing up badly in the polls for quite some time now.

PRIME MINISTER:

Well I don't want to have a long debate about the polls but

I seem to recall two months ago in the wake of the budget in Newspoll,

which some people take more notice of than others, we were back

to where we were straight after the 1996 election.

JOURNALIST:

So the tax policy will be the circuit breaker you think?

PRIME MINISTER:

Well I don't use terms like circuit breaker but what you have

at the moment is people expectantly waiting for the policy and it's

obviously a very big event in the life of the Government and it

will obviously help shape people's attitudes towards the Government

and they'll see that the Coalition stands for tax reform. And

there's Kim Beazley and Pauline Hanson holding hands against

tax reform. I think it will fix their mind on who is for progress

and who is for regression and who is for the future and who is for

the past.

JOURNALIST:

Are you disappointed you didn't get a boost out of the passage

of the Wik legislation?

PRIME MINISTER:

Well everything is relative when it comes to boosts, Michael.

JOURNALIST:

Prime Minister, have you felt coming to Bendigo just a slight apprehension

knowing that Pauline Hanson is speaking on the same day?

PRIME MINISTER:

No, should I?

JOURNALIST:

Has there been any, knowing that there's a protest reaction...

PRIME MINISTER:

Well I don't know what other people are doing in relation

to her visit. Let me take the opportunity of saying, however, that

violent demonstrations against Mrs Hanson are undemocratic, they

are not in the pattern of Australian politics and you could almost

believe that those demonstrators were being paid by One Nation because

what those demonstrators are doing is attracting sympathy towards

Mrs Hanson. Those people are very foolish if they imagine that those

sorts of demonstrations are going to drive people away.

People don't want violence. I find the sight of an 85 year

old man with his face bleeding, staggering into a meeting, disgusting

– absolutely disgusting. And the people who are responsible

for that kind of behaviour are the enemies of democracy and free

speech in this country. I think that sort of behaviour is absolutely

disgusting and so far from that helping expose the futility of the

Hanson agenda, and it is a futile agenda, it will in fact attract

sympathy to the person and that is regrettable because I think people

should just stand back and have a look at what she is saying and

what the solutions are and then the support will peel away. But

if you think by yelling abuse, throwing punches, shouting obscenities

and engaging in mindless chants, you are going to change anybody's

mind you don't understand the mood and the temper of the Australian

people.

JOURNALIST:

Mr Howard, can I ask one thing about this morning's ceremony.

You said it was one of the highlights of your Prime Ministership.

Was it all the more important because of the family connection?

PRIME MINISTER:

Yes it was, I did feel...my as you know, my father and grandfather

fought together on the Western Front. My father was 20 and my grandfather

was 45 and I have always felt because of that an emotional identification.

I think he was just a wonderful old man. I think, he's 107,

he's our oldest digger and I just thought it was a terrific

occasion. I mean that man embodies so much of what we believe in

ourselves as Australians - his youth, his sense of adventure, his

commitment, his reckless sort of indifference to too much authority,

all of those things we love about Australia, he embodied and I thought

it was a fantastic ceremony. I was very moved by it.

JOURNALIST:

(inaudible)

PRIME MINISTER:

I don't know how you can be in Coalition with a party whose

economic policies are virtually indistinguishable from those of

the Labor Party.

JOURNALIST:

So you rule out (inaudible)?

PRIME MINISTER:

I have already ruled it out, full stop, kaput, finished. Thank

you.

[ENDS]

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