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Transcripts from the Prime Ministers of Australia

Howard, John

Period of Service: 11/03/1996 - 03/12/2007
Release Date:
10/02/1998
Release Type:
Interview
Transcript ID:
10627
Released by:
  • Howard, John Winston
TRANSCRIPT OF THE PRIME MINISTER THE HON JOHN HOWARD MP INTERVIEW WITH RAY MARTIN A CURRENT AFFAIR, CHANNEL 9 PARLIAMENT HOUSE, CANBERRA

MARTIN:

Prime Minister thank you for your time. Now you are a committed

family man and the father of two young men, what went through your

mind today when you had to make the decision to send other young

men off to put their lives on the line?

PRIME MINISTER:

Everything you can imagine. It is the hardest decision I have taken

as Prime Minister. It certainly involved a greater sense of responsibility,

a sense of dread, but also a belief that the country had really

no alternative.

MARTIN:

Were you aware that you are the first Coalition Prime Minister

in 30 years to send Australian troops to war?

PRIME MINISTER:

Well I don't know that I would quite put it in those terms.

I mean, the vessel we sent to the Gulf in 1991 was exposed to some

of the most hostile activity there. So in that sense it is a continuum

of what was done then. But we do have a responsibility, we can't

shut our eyes and pretend that this is something that ultimately

won't affect us.

MARTIN:

Do you serious think there is a threat of something like anthrax

in Australia's water supply?

PRIME MINISTER:

Well not immediately, no. But there could be in countries bordering

on Iraq and if he is able to do it then other rogue states, perhaps

closer to home, might believe that they can do it as well.

MARTIN:

Will you get a chance to look the SAS men in the face before they

go off?

PRIME MINISTER:

Yes I will. I will want to see them if ultimately before they go,

if ultimately that is the contribution that is agreed between us

and the United States. We are still discussing with the United States

the nature of our contribution. But we have indicated, both in my

discussions with President Clinton and also in the discussions between

our defence people and the American defence people, that the sort

of contribution we would make is a small detachment of the SAS and

of the 707s. And I would certainly want very much to see the men

before they go.

MARTIN:

Did you speak to President Clinton and is he pleased with Australia?

PRIME MINISTER:

Yes he is. I spoke to President Clinton on Saturday when he rang

to make the request and I rang him again this afternoon immediately

after I had announced the decision of the Australian people. He

was very grateful. He expressed the hope to me, and I share it very

devoutly, that military action will not be necessary. And I believe

that the more countries that line up publicly with the United States

the greater is the pressure on Iraq and on Saddam Hussein to see

the folly for his own people of the course of action that he is

taking.

MARTIN:

Does it worry you that America's Middle East allies who were

there in the Gulf War in ‘91 are not there today and are saying

no?

PRIME MINISTER:

It is too early to write them off, it is too early. And, of course,

some of them have already indicated a willingness to make airfields

and other installations available.

MARTIN:

Who was that?

PRIME MINISTER:

One or two have done that I am not at liberty to say more.

MARTIN:

Does this mean that if we send SAS troops does this mean we are

at war with Iraq?

PRIME MINISTER:

No it doesn't mean that. It means that we are part of a multi-national

force led by the United States, acting persuant to a Security Council

resolution to ensure that weapons, the material that is dangerous

to neighbouring countries and potentially to others is destroyed.

It doesn't mean that we are automatically at war. And bear

in mind that the unit that we are proposing to send is meant to

be engaged in a search and destroy operation.

MARTIN:

But do they have the...

PRIME MINISTER:

I am sorry, search and rescue not search and destroy, I am sorry,

search and rescue.

MARTIN:

Alright, search and rescue behind the lines again, do they have

the protection of prisoner of war status?

PRIME MINISTER:

Well they will have all of the protections that can be available.

But at this stage we are discussing with the Americans what is involved.

Bear in mind if you are dealing here with the most highly trained

section of the Australian Defence Force.

MARTIN:

Would you agree that most people, I guess around the world, want

to get rid of Saddam rather than kill the Iraqi people?

PRIME MINISTER:

Yes I do.

MARTIN:

So what happens PM when those first CNN pictures come in of dead

babies and crying old people and destroyed buildings, what happens

then?

PRIME MINISTER:

Well I understand the emotional effect of that, I also have been

told that the Americans have refined even further the precision

of their military activities since the Gulf War in 1991. I don't

pretend to the Australian people that there might not be people

killed or hurt outside the immediate targets, that unfortunately

is the tragic consequence of when you are dealing with a dictator

like Saddam Hussein. I mean, if you always factor that into account

you never do anything and he wins.

MARTIN:

Do you fear a split though, a retaliation from Arab Australians

or Islamic Australians?

PRIME MINISTER:

No I don't. And I want to say to Australians of Arab descent

and of the Islamic faith that you are valued Australians like all

other Australians, that my Government will not tolerate any kind

of victimisation or any kind of singling out. I think by and large

they faired extremely well during the time of the Gulf War. And

I want to make an appeal to all Australians that under no circumstances

should the odium of what Saddam Hussein has done and what he represents,

under no circumstances should that odium attach to any Arab Australians,

they should be treasured and protected as should all other Australians.

MARTIN:

Well finally Prime Minister, you know that President Clinton is

going to be accused of going to war against Iraq as a diversion

to his sex scandals, how do you answer that?

PRIME MINISTER:

Well I don't believe it.

MARTIN:

It is already being said.

PRIME MINISTER:

I know it is being said. I think if you look at it objectively

in those terms that accusation is untrue, I don't believe it,

I don't accept it and I don't think it should be allowed
46;t accept it and I don't think it should be allowed

to divert President Clinton from his role as the Leader of the free

world.

MARTIN:

Prime Minister I wish you well.

PRIME MINISTER:

Thank you.

[Ends]

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