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TRANSCRIPT: JOHN TINGLE-SHOW ( FROM BERLIN), RADIO 2GB, SYDNEY.
INTERVIEW WITH THE PRIME MINISTER, THE HON.
THE HON. R. J. HAWKE, ACP NP.
DATE: THURSDAY 2FTH. S EPTEMBER 1984 ( RO NY
TINGLE: My guest in the studio with me at the present time. is the
Mayorw of Berlin, Mr. Heinrik Lummer, and on the phone from
Australia we have the Prime Minister of Australia, Mr. Bob Hawke.
Good Morning Mr. Hawke.
PRIME MINISTER: Good Morning John.
TINGLE: Let me say to you that from beautiful Berlin where
everything is peaceful we would like to say Good Morning to you in
Australia where you're having a pretty interesting time at the
moment, I believe.
PRIME MINISTER: Yes, a-very interesting time.
TINGLE: Indeed. Mr. Ha'rke, may I introduce you to the Mayor of
Berlin, Mr. Heinrik Lummer, who is anxious to talk to you and
exchange greetings between the two countries. Mr. Hawke Mr. Lummer.
MAYOR OF BERLIN: Gocd Morning Mr. Prime Minister. I am very glad
to have this opportunity to talk with you and I think it's a
wonderful way to talk with each other and to say, first of all,
Berlin. greets Australia.
PRIME MINISTER: Thank you very much.
MAYOR OF BERLIN: I want to say that of course many people think we
have no certain relations and connections, and of course that. must
become better I hope, but we in Berlin 5till remember that in a
very dangerous situation when vie had the blockzade that your
Australian Air Force helped us to manage the situation and w. e also
know that I think in Australia live 100,000 people coming from
Germany and a-lot of themi come from Berlin and I want to saY good
wisher, and. of greetings to them.
P HINE MINISTER: Thank you very nuch Mr. Miayor. Let me, on behalf
of the people of Australia, convey our gree-tings and besit wij . h-es
and to say to you that w. e do inideed well rer. Kr~ bcr the period of. the
blockade to which you refer and Ave were pleased to ba able to Play
some part in supporting thea people of 1Wesi; rexlin. \ le reffarded.
your city as a symnbol of freedo~ n, not only ror the people-of
Germ~ any, but indeed for people throughout the world. And you tire
rifght in saying that we have excellen~ t relations with 1* est Be-r3in,
with Berlin and the Federr. l Repuablic o-k Cermairy. That dvpe-nds not
mievely on the tacts that I havo ruf rrod to 0i yoUr city beingr a
symnbol olf I" reedo; m, but it rlso refleicts the irct. that going, ba) CIh
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over many years Au-traiia has been enriched by the coming to
Australia of very large numbers of citizens of German origins.
Indeed, in one of our great industries the wine industry In
South Australia it was founded by settlers from northern
Germany at the end of the last century and some of those many
of those -' from Berlin itself. We have many Australians going to
the great cultural centres of Europe, and particularly going to
Berlin. Those of our citizens who are interested in music and the
theatre and the. arts make Berlin one of their centres of
destination. And so we have all those reasons for closeness with
you your magnificent stand of courage in the post War period;
he fact that you remain, as we say, a symbol of freedom in this
uncertain world, and the historical connection We have through the
large numbers of people who come from that city to settle in
Australia. So for all these reasons-we have great feelings of
identity with you.
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people coming from Australia and we have 2 million Berliners in
our city, and on behalf of the Senate of Berlin I would take this
opportunity to invite you to come to Berlin and all these people
the Australians and the Berliners would be very happy if you'd
come to Berlin, and I think Berlin is a very, very strange city
sometimes, of course wonderful on the other hand, and some things
in life and in the world you only can understand if you see it.
You can read and write and talk with each other you can't
understand but if you come you will, and that means we would
be very glad , if you come t. o Berlin and again I want to invite you
to come.
PRIME MINISTER: Well thank you very much Mr. Lummer, and let me
say this, that I would be expecting to travel overseas next year
and I would say to you now that I have much pleasure in accepting
the invitation that you put to me on behalf of the people of
Berlin and I would hope to be able to take that up next year, and
I do regard it as a great honour that you've extended that
invitation to me.
MAYOR OF BERLIN: I will tell it to all the Berliners and I am
quote sure they will be happy. Thank you so much.
PRIME MINISTER: Thank you Mr. Lummer, my best wishes.
TINGLE: Mr. Hawke thank you very much irdeed for that. I think
you'll find it's a beautiful city and it is, as you said, a symbol
of freedom. It's an exciting place to be in and I know, I hope
that I don't presume when I say that I think you and I knew each
other well enough for me to say that you'll enjOy it as I did
and I look forward to your visit.
PRIIE MINISTER: Thank you very much indeed John. Thank you.
TINGLE: Okay Mr. Hawke, thanks for talhing to me. ' Bye.
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