PRESIDENT OBAMA:
I want to express my appreciation to Prime Minister Abbott, with his team, and the people of Australia – not only for the upcoming G20 and the arrangements that they’ve made for what I’m sure is going to be a very important discussion about global growth, but for the incredibly strong bilateral alliance and relationship between our peoples.
Time and again, Australia has stood shoulder-to-shoulder with the United States on issues of critical international security. Today is no different. We have seen Australian participation as far as the coalition dealing with ISIL in Iraq. They continue to be an outstanding member of the coalition in our efforts to stabilise Afghanistan.
Tony personally has expressed his extraordinary commitment to handling foreign fighters that threaten both of our homelands and obviously the men and women of the Australian armed forces have terrific capabilities and on many occasions have made extraordinary sacrifice. So, first and foremost, I want to thank him for the security partnership that we have.
We also have a strong economic partnership and I’m certain that the G20 will be productive because Tony has emphasised the need for us to emphasise growth and jobs – that’s true in Australia, that’s true in the United States and it’s true around the world at a time when global demand continues to be weak and we see certain regions of the world lagging behind the kind of growth rates that we’d like to see and so I’m looking forward to a very productive conversation there.
We also discussed the opportunities. TPP is an obvious one and Australia has been an outstanding partner on that front. We have additional opportunities in APEC and the East Asia Summit to discuss how this incredibly dynamic region can cooperate more effectively together around issues like infrastructure, disaster relief, streamlining regulations to facilitate greater trade. Throughout all this, we find that Australia consistently shares values, ideals, and a sense of global responsibility that is unparalleled, and we very much appreciate our friendship and our cooperation and are confident that over the next several days we’ll be making progress in all these fronts.
PRIME MINISTER ABBOTT:
Barack, thank you so much. It’s great to be here in Beijing with you and with obviously many other leaders. I see the next couple of days in Beijing here at APEC as being very much the right lead-in to the G20 in Brisbane because essentially both APEC and the G20 are about growth and jobs. That’s what the world needs: it needs more growth, and more growth means more jobs.
So, I’m very pleased to be here. I guess I should observe that one of the innovations of the G20 this year has been not only to agree that we need more growth, but for all of the G20 countries to put forward its plan for growth and to submit individual country plans to a form of peer review, and the fact that we’ve all been able to say not just that we want growth, but that we intend to get extra growth in a particular way, and then to let everyone know what that way is, means that there’s a good chance that it’s actually going to get delivered because we’ll be able to see in the months and years ahead how much of these growth strategies are actually being delivered.
Again, if I may say, it is always good to be with the President of the United States.
Australia and the United States are a great partnership and I want to thank President Obama for the leadership that he’s shown in so many areas, but obviously as we deal with the ISIL death cult in the Middle East, your leadership has been deft and, I mean, we don’t like being the necessity of being part of this coalition, but it is a necessity, and that’s why we’ll be a staunch member.
PRESIDENT OBAMA:
Alright, we’ve got time for a couple of questions.
QUESTION:
Thank you, Mr President. Can you give us a sense of what signals or outreach you received from the North Koreans that led to your decision to send James Clapper to secure the release of the Americans? And do you see this breakthrough as a possible precursor to broader talks with North Korea on nuclear issues or other matters?
PRESIDENT OBAMA:
We had an indication that there was the possibility of a release of these two hostages – prisoners – and we pursued it. It did not touch on some of the broader issues that have been the source of primary concern when it comes to North Korea, in particular, its development of nuclear capacity. There were not high-level policy discussions between Jim Clapper and the North Koreans, but we have been consistent in saying that when and if North Korea becomes serious about denuclearisation on the peninsula and it’s prepared to have a conversation around that topic, then the United States is going to be very open to trying to arrive at a solution that over the long-term could lead to greater prosperity and security for North Korea. Until that time, there’s going to be a core problem between us. And obviously I’m incredibly thankful to Jim Clapper for the efforts that he made and I couldn’t be happier for the families as we enter into the holidays to know that their loved ones are back. It’s a good news story.
We continue, though, to have a broader fundamental conflict with the North Koreans and it’s going to take, I think – in addition to small gestures like the ones that we saw at the release of these individuals – a broader understanding on the part of the North Koreans that all the countries in the region, including China, including the Republic of Korea, including Japan, consider this to be their number one security priority – making sure that we do not have a nuclearised Korean peninsula. And up until this point at least we have not seen serious engagement on the part of Pyongyang to deal with that problem.
QUESTION:
Did you get any better indication about Kin Jong-un and his strategy for dealing with the US through these negotiations?
PRESIDENT OBAMA:
No.
PRIME MINISTER ABBOTT:
I think we have an Australian question? Phil?
QUESTION:
Phil Coorey, from the Australian Financial Review. Mr President, your Government had conversations with our Government about China’s proposal for the Infrastructure Investment Bank in the region. Can I ask you, Sir, what your concerns were about that bank? Whether they were like to our Government, were they more strategic or were they financial? And Mr Abbott, would you like to comment on that as well?
PRESIDENT OBAMA:
It’s interesting, we were talking before you came in about my belief that it’s in all of our efforts to support China to be successful, prosperous, and to be an outstanding international partner. You want the most populous country in the world to be stable and successful and as China has undertaken this extraordinary journey over the last several decades and we’ve seen unprecedented numbers of people move out of dire poverty into a more stable economic situation, it’s all for the good if China then now becomes a contributor to broader international efforts to help less-developed countries and to alleviate poverty elsewhere. So, not only are we not opposed to those efforts, we want to actively encourage efforts for China to make contributions to the international order. But what we’ve consistently said is that it’s important for China to uphold international rules and norms as it expands its influence both regionally and around the world.
So, on something like an infrastructure bank in this region, making sure that there’s transparency and accountability, and that if it’s in fact a multilateral institution that they’re rules that all countries are abiding by in the operations of the institution. Those are the same rules by which the World Bank or IMF or Asian Development Bank or any other international institution needs to abide by. When the United States helped to craft those institutions after World War Two, the United States deliberately restrained itself in some ways, bound itself to certain norms and certain rules because we were confident that when everybody’s following a set of rules of the road, all of us are better off – large countries, small countries alike. And so I think our message whether it’s on the Asian Development Bank or on some maritime issues that have caused tension and consternation in the region, our message is that we want to see China successful. Inevitably, they are going to have influence and exert a certain gravitational pull just by dint of size and what’s happening with their economy and its extraordinary capability of their people. But as they grow, we want them to be a partner in underwriting the international order – not undermining it.
PRIME MINISTER ABBOTT:
Phil, as you know, the Chinese have been promoting this for at least 12 months now and ever since the idea was first floated, many countries have been talking to China about it and amongst themselves about it. So, there have been lots and lots of conversations with a whole range of people and countries about the Asia Infrastructure Investment Bank.
In principle, a new multilateral body to help promote infrastructure will be good for growth and good for jobs but it does, as far as we are concerned, have to be a genuinely multilateral body and as a genuinely multilateral body we would be very happy to be part of that. I think most countries would. I guess that is what we are looking to see: we are looking to see some evolution in the time ahead to a situation where this has the sorts of governance and transparency that other multilateral institutions have so that it’s a body that no one country can unilaterally control, and if and when we get that, I think it will be a good contributor to growth in our region and in the wider world.
QUESTION:
Thank you, Mr President. Chinese President Xi Jinping said yesterday that he backed how the current chief executive is handling protestors in Hong Kong. I wondered if you agree with that assessment and what, if any, concerns do you plan on raising about the issue while you are here in Beijing?
PRESIDENT OBAMA:
Our message has been consistent with President Xi and with his predecessors. There are certain things that the United States believes. We believe in freedom of speech, we believe in freedom of association, we believe in openness in government as befitting our traditions and our way of life. We don’t expect China to follow the American model in every instance, but we are going to continue to have concerns about human rights. Obviously, the situation between China and Hong Kong is historically complicated and is in a process of transition and I think our primary message has been to make sure that violence is avoided as the people of Hong Kong try to sort through what this next phase of their relationship is to the mainland, but we’re not going to stop speaking out on behalf of the things that we care about; recognising that we also have significant interests in business to do with China and recognising that China’s not in the same place in terms of their development both politically and economically as we are today.
I think it would be unrealistic to expect that we set those concerns aside because, as I have said in international forums as well as bilateral meetings, respect for human rights, respect for the dignity of individuals I don’t believe is unique to America; it’s not unique to the West. I think people have aspirations for a certain amount of freedom and dignity and the ability to shape their own lives all around the globe. I am proud that despite the fact that in too many places those rights aren’t always observed, they are more consistently a voice encouraging more space for those voices.
When we travel to Burma later on this trip, you are seeing an evolution that is taking place there and that is powerful, it is incomplete, it takes place in fits and starts but it is something that, ultimately, I believe will result in greater prosperity of security for the people there and to the extent where we can be constructive partners and observers to that process, we will do so.
QUESTION:
Thank you, Prime Minister. Mark Kenny from Fairfax Media in Australia. A question for both of you, if I may. Mr President, you have recently increased your countries commitment to the Iraq campaign against ISIL. I am wondering was this specifically raised as a topic in the meeting that you have just had? Did you put a request to Australia that it also increase its troop commitments or its military commitments to that effort?
PRESIDENT OBAMA:
It was a topic because, as I said, Australia is a stalwart contributor to this effort and Tony has been crystal clear about why it is so important for us to defeat ISIL – not only for the good of the region and the people of Iraq but ultimately for the people in the United States and Australia and people around the world.
What I explained to Tony was the same thing that I said in an interview yesterday in the United States. We are moving to a slightly different phase now. Initially, our goal was to stop the momentum of ISIL as it was sweeping through Iraq and you were seeing too many Iraqi security force units scatter. Although, particularly in Anbar province in the west, you are still seeing ISIL taking over isolated towns, you haven’t seen the same momentum.
The situation with respect to Iraqi security forces has stabilised although the number of affected units is significantly smaller than it needs to be. So, the next phase is for us to train and assist Iraqi security forces so they can begin to build up and form an offence. We can provide close air support, we can provide logistics and intelligence, but ultimately they are the ones who are going to have to fight to push ISIL out of some of these areas that have been taken over. In order for us to be able to do that, we are going to have to have more trainers on the ground and that is the reason why I authorised this additional number of US troops.
What hasn’t changed is that it is not our folks who are going to be doing the fighting. Iraqis ultimately have to fight ISIL and they have to determine their own security, but we are recognising the need for us to ramp up Iraqi capabilities – not only the Iraqi security forces but also some of the tribes in Western Iraq that are showing the willingness to go against ISIL, but are outgunned and too often out-manoeuvred at this stage.
Now, I recognise that the United States as one member of the coalition has some unique capabilities in setting up the template, setting up the structure for that training to take place in a way that protects our people and ensures that we have the kinds of enablers that make it safe for our folks to be there. It is not without risk, but at least it protects them against extraordinary risks.
As we are setting that up, I am having conversations with Australia and other coalition partners that are already committed to putting trainers in, to see how they can supplement and work with us in this overall effort.
The key point that I emphasised to Tony and empathise to all our coalition members is our task here is to help Iraqis help themselves. This is not the same situation as we saw either in the Iraq War in 2003, 2004, 2005 or what we have been doing in Afghanistan where our men and women have been much more in the frontlines. It doesn’t mean that there aren’t risks involved and I am very mindful of making sure that as we look at these train and assist plans that we are setting up the best possible circumstance for what is an inherently dangerous job, but it does mean that the principle that we are not engaged in direct combat – that continues.
PRIME MINISTER ABBOTT:
The President is absolutely right. The ISIL death cult is a menace to the whole world. They have declared war on the world and it is good that the President, working with the Iraqi Government, has assembled a strong coalition to assist the Iraqi Government to respond effectively and ultimately to regain control over its own territory. I think it is very important that we never lose sight of the fact that this death cult is, to quote Malaysia’s Prime Minister Najib, “it’s against God, it’s against Islam and it is against our common humanity” as we have seen repeatedly in recent months.
So, it is important to respond strongly which is what the US-led coalition is doing. There are various different missions here; there is the advise and assist mission, there is a developing train and assist mission. Our priority at the moment is getting our Special Forces into Baghdad and then into the field on the advise and assist mission that we have set them. That is happening, and I am confident that our people will do good work.
The point that the President makes is absolutely right. In the end, no one is going to fight harder for Iraq than Iraqis will fight for themselves. That is what we are doing: we are helping them to reclaim their country from something which is evil, from something which is a menace to them, and if it is allowed to remain, will be a menace to all of us.
PRESIDENT OBAMA:
Thank you very much, everybody.
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