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Howard, John

Period of Service: 11/03/1996 - 03/12/2007
Release Date:
04/08/1999
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Transcript ID:
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TRANSCRIPT OF THE PRIME MINISTER THE HON JOHN HOWARD MP ADDRESS TO THE PROPERTY COUNCIL LUNCHEON CROWN TOWERS HOTEL, MELBOURNE Subject: Economy, taxation reform

E&OE..................

Thank you very much Peter Lavis. To Louise Asher, the Minister for Small

Business, to Carol Schwartz, your national president, Peter Clarke, other

distinguished guests, ladies and gentlemen. I want to thank the Property

Council for inviting me here today to give to me an opportunity on behalf

of the Government to share some thoughts, and I hope also aspirations I

have about the future economic and political landscape of Australia.

It's not a bad time to be talking to a business audience about the state

of the Australian economy, nor indeed about the prospects that lie ahead

of us as we come towards the end of this millennium. Of the many memorable

things he said, Franklin Roosevelt just after he was inaugurated as President

of the United States in the early 1930s, I think he used words to the effect

that we have nothing to fear but fear itself. And that was an injunction

delivered to a nation and world that was very battered down and weary by

the ravages of the great depression. How different the circumstances are

now, particularly here in Australia against the background of a world economy

which is working better I believe than it has probably at any time since

the end of World War II. And particularly against the background of the

American economy which is displaying an incredible level of resilience and

strength.

And if I could perhaps borrow for today's circumstances those words of Roosevelt

and to make the observation that just because we are performing well at

the present time, and just because by any measure the recovery in Australia

and the strong growth in Australia has continued longer than most people

expected, that is no reason to fear for a moment that if we follow the right

policies we can enjoy a continuation of that strong growth and that great

stability of the Australian economy. I suppose that the many things that

have been said about me in my political career, I've probably never been

accused too often as being reckless, or indifferent about the need to take

caution. I am appropriately cautious about certain things. I don't believe

in changing something that works well, but I do believe very strongly in

embracing change, even radical change, for those institutions, practices,

and attitudes within the Australian community that ought to be changed.

And the message that I want to leave with you today above everything else

is that the strong state of the Australian economy in 1999 is not the product

of inadvertence, it is not the product just of luck, it is the product of

a number of fundamental changes and reforms that have been implemented in

our economy over the last 10 to 15 years. And I've always been willing in

looking back over the history of the Australian economy, where appropriate

to give credit to changes that were introduced by our predecessors in government.

And in one or two areas changes implemented by our predecessors have made

a very material contribution to the strength and stability of the Australian

economy today.

But very particularly the strength we have at the moment, the fact that

we are without any doubt the strongest performing economy amongst the OECD

countries, and I never tire of saying that of all the economic statistics

of which I'm immensely proud at the moment none gives me greater pride in

the fact that I can say to an audience like this, and indeed to any audience,

that of the 24 member countries of the OECD the debt to GDP ratio, the government

debt to GDP ratio of Australia is the lowest of the 24 member nations of

the OECD. Or put another way, the burden of debt on future generations of

Australians is lighter than the burden of debt on future generations of

the populations of any of the other 23 member nations of the OECD. And that

kind of situation delivers incalculable benefits not only to the present

but also to the future.

We have as you know over the last three-and-a-quarter years set our faces

toward a very strong program of economic reform. We got the country out

of a deficit of $10.5 billion, we have returned a surplus a year ahead of

schedule. We have delivered the lowest interest rates, the lowest inflation,

the steadiest levels of business investment, and an economic growth rate

that in 1998 was faster than the economic growth rate of any of the G7 nations.

We've done that because of a commitment to a number of fundamental reforms.

It wasn't easy in the early months of government to cut back government

spending. It wasn't easy in the early months of government to tackle industrial

relations reform. We faced a titanic, [inaudible], and industrial battle

when we set out to reform the Australian waterfront. And most importantly

of all and most contemporaneously of all, we have embraced the most fundamental

and sweeping reform of Australia's taxation system certainly since World

War II.

And the value of that reform will endure for years into the future. And

although we didn't achieve 100% of what the Australian people voted for

in October of last year, we have achieved through the deal that we made

with the Australian Democrats something like 85 to 90% of the promises we

took to the Australian public. And the structural value of that reform is

immense. It will lower the fundamental cost structure of the Australian

economy. It will make our exports cheaper. It will reduce our domestic business

costs. It will lower the price of fuel and that's very important to a nation

that's physical as large as Australia. It will deliver to 80% of Australian

taxpayers a top marginal rate of no more than 30 cents in the dollar, and

it will guarantee over time rising levels of revenue and a stronger revenue

base for the States of Australia to provide the basic services which are

their responsibility.

And as all of you will know, that follow political debate in this country,

you'll be aware that one of the great political pantomimes of Australia

have been the annual gatherings between the Prime Minister and the Premiers

in Canberra. It doesn't matter who the Prime Minister's been, it doesn't

matter who the State Premiers it has been, it doesn't matter whether it's

Labor or Liberal, it's been the same for decades. The Premiers go along

and demand more money. The Commonwealth says they can't afford to give them

any more money because they're already over indulged and the Premiers go

away complaining that they've been given a very raw deal. And that pantomime

has gone on now for decades. And one of the great benefits of the deal that

we now got through the Parliament, and one of the great consequences of

the agreement that I signed with all of the Premiers and the Chief Ministers

of the Territories, is that after the transitional phase there will be a

steady growth in the revenue from the goods and services tax for all of

which will go to the States of Australia. Every last dollar of the GST revenue

will be committed to the States and out of that growing revenue the States

will have a growing opportunity of providing the increased services in health

and housing and governments schools and police which are the ongoing responsibility

of State governments in Australia.

But I wouldn't like, in talking for a few minutes about what we have achieved

over the last three-and-a-quarter years, I wouldn't want anybody in this

audience to imagine that we regard the reform process as having been completed

because when you live in a global economy, and forever Australia is part

of the globalised economic environment in which the whole world now exists.

We don't have an option to go back to the 1950s or 1960s when we may have

had good levels of prosperity, no better than they are today. But we lived

then in a very protected cloistered world. We now live forever in a globalised

economy. We've seen the seamless transfer of capital across borders without

regard for political boundaries, matched increasingly by the seamless transfer

of job opportunities. So in this globalised world you have to keep competing

effectively. It is like a never ending race where you have to remain ahead

of your competitor. And it's not good enough to say to yourself - well we're

doing better now than we were doing five or ten years ago because how you

were doing five or ten years ago amount to absolutely nothing so far as

beating your rival or beating your competitor.

And in that world of global competition it's essential that the process

of reform go on because you never really complete the process of reform.

It's like climbing one hill only to find another one facing you on the horizon.

And some it is that although we have done a great deal to reform the Australian

economy. Although we're in a very strong position we have a responsibility

of pressing ahead with the reform process, and particularly in two areas.

We need more industrial relations reform. We need it in the form of still

less regulation. We need some-how-or-other to persuade the Senate to pass

those laws which will remove the restrictions on unfair dismissal which

ought to be removed. We also need to some-how-or-other to persuade the Australian

Senate to pass the legislation that we want that will guarantee that youth

wages remain part of the industrial relations landscape of Australia because

by maintaining youth wages we protect the jobs of several hundred thousand

young Australians. So there's still much to be done on the industrial front.

But I know of particular interest to this audience, having completed the

process of legislating for the GST, and everything that accompanies the

goods and services tax, and now having embarked upon the process of implementing

the GST reform, it is imperative that we now turn our attention to the responsibilities

of business taxation reform. And it's no secret that John Ralph handed his

report to Peter Costello a few days ago, and I had the opportunity here

in Melbourne this morning of a lengthy discussion with Mr Ralph in relation

to the report that he's delivered to the government.

And I want to take a moment to record my gratitude to John Ralph, to Bob

Joss, and to Rick Allet and all the other members of that committee, as

indeed I share my gratitude to people like Carol Schwartz, your national

president, for the willingness of people in the private sector to give up

their time and to make a contribution to the making of better policy and

more competitive policy for the Australian economy. Because it is quite

impossible for a government acting alone with its public service advisers,

with all the wisdom collectively we might try and bring to the task, is

quite impossible for us acting alone to re-write effectively the business

taxation system of this country.

And the report that John has delivered to the government is the product

of an enormous amount of work contributed very generously by the private

sector of the Australian community. And the changes that will flow from

that report will have long term ramifications, I believe very beneficial

ones, on the operations of business in Australia. And we've got one or two

very simple principles in mind as we come to address that report. And those

principles really surround one or two fundamental questions. And the first

of those questions is will the changes we implement make it more attractive

to invest in business operations in Australia? Will the changes make Australia

more competitive? Will these changes be seen by investors overseas as more

likely to attract their dollars to Australia.

And there couldn't be a better time in the last 20 or 30 years for an Australian

government to look at removing any barriers to greater investment in this

country from overseas. Because the achievement of the Australian economy,

and the strength of the Australian economy is very widely recognised around

the world. And that was driven home to me very strongly when I was in the

financial capital of the world, New York, only a few weeks ago. And in the

25 years that I've been visiting that city in various government and opposition

capacity, I've not found a greater respect for what Australia has achieved,

and the strength of the Australian economy than I did on this particular

occasion. Now we're going to ask ourselves that fundamental question - will

it make Australia more competitive, will it make it more attractive to invest

in Australia?

And another fundamental question we have to ask ourself is whether the changes

that we propose to make, and I can assure there will be some quite fundamental

changes to the Australian business taxation system, will those changes lead

to less complexity, will they lead to changes which are more likely to produce

a simpler and more coherent taxation system? Now I can't pretend to you

today that any business taxation system can be the essence of simplicity

because business transactions of their very nature are often complex and

indirect. But I think there is an overwhelming view in the Australian business

community that not only do we need a taxation system that encourages more

competition and more investment, and more risk taking, but we also need

a business taxation system which is less complicated and easier to follow.

And that will be the second of the great principles or the great questions

that will apply to the deliberations that we are about to bring to the report

delivered to us by Mr Ralph.

I think all of you are aware of some of the areas of debate and some of

the areas of discussion about business tax reform. I make one very important

request to all of you, and that is when having a look at the impact of any

of the recommendations and the decisions of the government that follow those

recommendations, I do ask that you take into account the aggregate impact,

not only of the business tax changes but also of all of the changes that

flow from the goods and services tax on your operations. There is a tendency

with these things for businesses to look at them in watertight compartments

and say - well the GST has given me this advantage that's terrific, but

if the business tax change doesn't give me also an additional advantage

than I'm against it. I ask all of you to look in aggregate at the changes

that will be brought about by business taxation reform, and also add to

them the changes that have been brought about through the goods and services

taxation reform. And I ask you to ask yourselves especially, when you add

both of them together whether the aggregate of the benefit, the changes

are beneficial to your businesses and your business operations. And I believe

that if you do that you will find that in the overwhelming majority of cases

you can answer that in a very very strong affirmative tone that I believe

will be the reaction of the business community to the changes that we bring

about.

So we have ahead of us therefore ladies and gentlemen, a number of major

further reform challenges. We have come a long way. We have made the Australian

economy achieve something that I don't think many people thought it would

achieve and we have seen it stare down the worst downturn in the Asia Pacific

region since the end of World War II. And if I'd addressed this gathering

a year ago, just on the eve of the release of the taxation reform plan,

and before the October election of 1998, I probably would have said to you

that we were looking forward to the challenge of selling tax reform to the

Australian community. And I also would have reported to you that although

the Australian economy was performing very well and is growing more strongly

than many predicted, we thought it would be badly damaged and that growth

would slow significantly as a result of the Asian economic downturn. And

I would have asked you to accept the proposition that in the face of that

impact of the downturn, that the government was better equipped than the

alternative opposition to guide Australia through those very very difficult

months, perhaps years.

I'm very happy now in August of 1999 to say that a year ago I would have

been too pessimistic in saying that, because I don't mind conceding that

the Australian economy has performed better over the last two years than

I thought it would. And I think it's fair to say that the Australian economy

has performed better than most people thought it would. And I think it's

very important that just as we have outperformed our expectations over the

last couple of years, and that although we should never be complacent or

smug about the future, there is no reason to believe or fear, to borrow

Roosevelt's expression again, there is no reason to fear that we can't continue

to enjoy the sort of economic stability and progress and that we are enjoying

at the present time. And we can do that. It is within our grasp to build

for ourselves the third great era of economic prosperity that Australia

has seen this century. And we do have it within our grasp to do that if

we continue the reform process. We won't achieve that goal, we won't build

that third era of great economic progress if we imagine that what we have

achieved either over the last couple of years has been a matter of luck

and the luck is going to turn against, or if we imagine alternatively that

we have completed the reform process. The reform process, you know it in

your businesses, we know it with our experience in government, is never

completed. We have done great things to get the budget back into surplus.

We have done great things to reform the industrial relations system. We

have pursued a vigorous competition policy which has brought about reduced

business costs for just about all businesses in this country. We have achieved

great things in the taxation reform front. But we still have many reform

challenges that lie ahead of us.

And if I could finish on one note ladies and gentlemen it is this - that

of all of the benefits that I believe that we have derived from the economic

achievements and the economic reforms of the last few years, and the strength,

the current day strength of the Australian economy, the most important dividend

out of that is I believe a dividend that goes to the national psychology.

When I became Prime Minister of Australia in March of 1996 I had the sense

in which Australia was something of an anxious outsider in the Asia Pacific

region knocking on the door seeking admission to the rich club of the Asia

Pacific region. We had the sense that some-how-or-other we were lagging

behind as we were aspiring to be accepted as part of this unique grouping

of nations. And now three-and-a-quarter years on so much of that has changed.

Australia is seen with a new respect in a new light. Australia is seen as

having achieved something that even many Australians didn't believe was

possible. We have bred in this country a belief that we are only really

entitled to enjoy a few short years of economic prosperity, and then the

boom underwriting those years would be replaced by a bust, and that in some

way we would have to put up interest rates to restrict imports and we would

have to go back to restrictive policies.

And I think the psychological dividend that the last year or two has delivered

to Australia has been enormous. It has given to the country a new respect,

a new strength around the world. We are seen as an achiever. We go to the

councils of the Asia Pacific region, and a good friend of the region, that

as a country that goes there on its own terms in its own right, and being

as it always has been a totally Australian experience with those countries.

And I think therefore that the psychological dividend, the self confidence

dividend that has come out of the last couple of years is indeed the greatest

dividend of all. And that should encourage us to believe that we shouldn't

fear the possibilities that prosperity can disappear almost automatically

in a year or twos time. And if we remain resolved to continue as the government

is to the process of reform in the years ahead there is no reason at all

why the prosperity the country now enjoys ought not to be consolidated or

not to continue to the benefit of future generations of our fellow countrymen

and women.

[Ends]

QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS FOLLOWING ADDRESS

E&OE.................

QUESTION:

From the perspective of this room, one of the most important components

of the GST reform package was the removal of stamp duty from commercial

property. When do you intend to deliver on this promise?

PRIME MINISTER:

Well under the arrangement that we have entered into with the Australian

States it will not be removed as early as we had anticipated, not through

any lack of desire on our part but because the compromise reached with the

Australian Democrats meant that the growth in revenues would not be as quick

as we had anticipated, and it will be.I can't give you an exact date, it

will be several years into the future, precisely when I can't at this stage

indicate but it will occur as soon as the growth in revenue from the GST

exceeds the benefit to the states of the existing financial arrangement

that the Commonwealth has with the States.

It is one of the consequences of the deal that was made with the Australian

Democrats. The stamp duty on financial instruments will be removed almost

immediately the new arrangements come into force. The wholesale sales tax

will be totally removed on the first of July of next year and the removal

of other state taxes will be delayed by several years as a consequence of

the slow down in the growth of revenues. It would have been otherwise if

we had been able to get the entire package through the Senate. It simply

hasn't proved possible to do that for reasons that you are all very well

aware of. I know that that is of a disappointment to this audience but just

as you live in a real commercial world, we live in a real political world.

We didn't have the numbers in the Senate, we weren't going to go and have

another election over whether or not the GST should include fresh food and

I didn't get many encouragements from anybody to do that and we took the

view that we should achieve a compromise that delivered 85-90% of what we

wanted. We have done that and we feel in overall terms the benefits are

enormous but I acknowledge your point. I can only ask you to understand

the circumstances in which it arose.

QUESTION:

With the greatest respect Prime Minister, that sounds like, you say it is

going to be delayed for several years, I am hearing it is never going to

happen. Your speech...

PRIME MINISTER:

No well with the greatest respect, you are wrong. I will come back when

it happens and remind you so.

MC:

Well said.

QUESTION:

Prime Minister, one of the consequences of economic prosperity is full employment.

Now in Australia this might mean that it's not 3% or 5%, it maybe 7% because

the old unemployed people don't match the new jobs. If that is the case

and that is what I am finding, how are you likely to review your immigration

policies to bring in people who have the skills that Australia needs and

certainly hasn't been able to provide its work force, so that we can position

ourselves into a global future?

PRIME MINISTER:

I would answer that question in a couple of ways. The first way is to say

that we have already begun, and in fact over the last three years we have

begun to alter our immigration policy quite dramatically to address the

very issue you've raised. Over the last three years we have altered in a

very major way the balance between family reunion and skilled migration.

The current migrant intake, a far greater bulk proportion of the people

being brought in, are skilled migrants and far fewer come in under the family

reunion category. So we have already begun to address that.

The broader question which I think you raised, and I guess underlying what

you put to me is the proposition that we're hitting a point where you can't

further reduce unemployment because the jobs that are available, they are

not matched by the people who are out of work. Now that is true up to a

point. It will always be true for any society irrespective of what level

of immigration it has. There is a view that the Australian economy would

receive an enormous boost if we had a much higher level of immigration and

people who put that view are partly, but not totally instructed by the experience

that this country had in the 1950s and '60s when major immigration made

an enormous contribution to Australia's post war economic expansion.

We don't have a fixed, in concrete view about the level of immigration.

We take the view that the level of immigration should be adjusted according

to economic circumstances. I don't think anybody can say, given the economic

growth we've had over the last few years that we have got the fundamentals

of economic policy wrong. I think that we have got them fundamentally right.

We are ready to alter the migrant intake if we believe that the economic

imperative require it. We are totally committed to maintaining, and where

possible, building on the current mix between skilled and family reunion.

We think the more skilled migrants that this country can have recruited

on a completely non-discriminatory basis, the more the nation will be enhanced,

and when I talk overseas about the possibility of Australia becoming a world

financial centre one of the attributes that I put forward is the fact that

we have, as Australian citizens now, hundreds of thousands of people who

have come from the countries of Asia who speak the language of those countries

and one of the enormous advantages of Australia in a global economic sense

is that we, sure, we speak the English language which is of enormous advantage

in world finance, particularly in world finance, but also we have as Australian

citizens a very diverse pool of people whose skill and dexterity in speaking

the languages of other nations, particularly in our region is of enormous

benefit.

So our position is that we are not permanently

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