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Transcripts from the Prime Ministers of Australia

Howard, John

Period of Service: 11/03/1996 - 03/12/2007
Release Date:
08/07/1999
Release Type:
Interview
Transcript ID:
11211
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  • Howard, John Winston
TRANSCRIPT OF THE PRIME MINISTER THE HON JOHN HOWARD MP PRESS CONFERENCE JAPAN NATIONAL PRESS CLUB TOKYO, JAPAN

E&OE..........

Thank you very much Mr Chairman. I intend to make a very short introductory

statement to allow the maximum amount of time for questions.

As you all know the relationship between Australia and Japan is very

close. Japan has been for a long time and remains Australia's best

customer and therefore as Prime Minister I pay a great deal of attention

to the relationship both at a personal level between myself and the

senior people in the Japanese Government and also at a broader national

level between our two societies.

The Australian economy is enjoying a period of very strong growth

at present. The growth rate is between four and five per cent a year.

We have just received some unemployment figures which have taken our

unemployment level to the lowest in 10 years. It is now down to 7.2

per cent which historically is a very low figure in our country over

the last decade. We have the lowest interest rates and the lowest

level of inflation for the past 30 years and in three years my Government

has eliminated a budget deficit of over $10 billion Australian and

we now have a budget surplus of a half per cent of GDP.

The Government has just taken through the Parliament a major reform

of our taxation system which involves the introduction of a broadly

based goods and services tax as well as major reductions in personal

income tax. That reform is to be followed very shortly by proposals

to reform our business taxation system. All of which together will

contribute to making the Australian economy more competitive internationally.

In my discussions with Mr Obuchi and other senior figures in the Japanese

Government I have emphasised the strengths of the bilateral relationship.

I've pointed out that we have the lowest level of industrial disputes

in Australia in almost 90 years. That we continue to be a very reliable

supplier, not only of raw materials but also of other products we

continue to be a country that welcomes large numbers of Japanese tourists

and we of course are a nation which is now experiencing an extraordinary

growth in teaching of the Japanese language amongst young Australians

and therefore a greater understanding of the culture of this country

by tens of thousands of young Australians.

I'm encouraged by the signs of greater growth in the Japanese economy.

I do not believe the Japanese Government has received as much credit

as it deserves for the reforms it had been undertaken in the financial

sector and elsewhere. In my discussions with Mr Obuchi I have naturally

underlined the leadership role Japan has, not only in the region but

in the world as its second largest and strongest economy, and that

it is not only important for Japan but it is also important for the

region and the world that the Japanese economy grow more strongly

and that some of the sluggishness of recent years be put behind it.

We continue in Australia to press for more liberalisation of world

markets, particularly in agriculture. We would like to see more open

access for agriculture in this country. It is our largest market for

food. I said to Mr Obuchi that both of us should work together at

the upcoming APEC meeting to encourage a leaders declaration calling

for a comprehensive world trade round which I believe is important

to the process of further liberalisation.

The final point I'd make in my opening remarks is that we spent some

time in our discussions talking about the situation in Indonesia.

I indicated to the Prime Minister of Japan that I felt that Indonesia

had undertaken a remarkable and historic move towards greater democracy,

that the elections had been conducted with comparatively little blood

shed and the indications were that the ballot had been essentially

transparent and open and that it was a very considerable achievement

that a nation of 211 million people after an authoritarian system

being in place for 40 years was able to embrace a more democratic

approach and that the Indonesian Government deserved more credit for

what it had done. We both agreed on how important it was to Indonesia's

international representation that a clean, open and transparent ballot

take place in East Timor to determine the future status of that part

of Indonesia, whether it be as an independent country or as an integrated

territory, enjoying autonomy within the Republic of Indonesia. Any

questions?

JOURNALIST:

Two questions if I may. Despite the sluggish state of economy in both

Japan and within the other parts of Asia, the Australian economy has

been enjoying very robust growth under your leadership, and also under

your leadership you now have for two consecutive years a fiscal surplus.

Can you give us a pointer as to how this was possible? I suppose it

was due to the excellent policies followed by yourself Prime Minister

Howard. But what is the clue.

The second question. I wonder is it possible for you to consider elimination

of the withholding tax altogether within Australia. It is considered

that the withholding tax system Australia is not very favourable because

it taxes for example on top of the interest rate 10 percentage points

on the interest rather when any foreign party were to make investment

into Australia. So if for example the Japan Export Import Bank were

to consider investment into Australia there would be taxation on the

interest rate. So this withholding tax has been undermining, if you

will, every potential investment by the Japanese into Australia. Of

course I would imagine this is due to the very rigid stance and policy

followed by your ministry of finance and in any given countries around

the world, bureaucrats are known to have very, shall we say, rigid

stance. But may I invite you Prime Minister to study this matter and

consider altogether the elimination of the withholding tax.

PRIME MINISTER:

In relation to the first question, the reason why Australia has been

able to stare down the Asian economic downturn is really I think due

to the fact that over the last 10 to 15 years governments of different

political persuasions in Australia have embraced very significant

reforms and we have now begun to get the real benefit of those reforms.

I think there are five major changes, I call them the five pillars

of the modernisation of the Australian economy. The deregulation of

the financial system which was begun under the former Coalition government

in 1982-83 continued with the support of the Coalition in Opposition

by the Labor party. That included the floating of the Australian dollar

and the clever management of our exchange rate over the last 18 months

has been one of the reasons why the Australian economy has done so

well.

The tariff reforms, the reductions in tariffs that were undertaken

by the former government, once again with Coalition support, I think

they were very valuable indeed. The present government's tackling

of the budget deficit has been of major value and without it I don't

believe there would have been the international confidence in Australia

nor the domestic confidence and the contribution getting rid of that

deficit made to reducing our interest rates.

Also under the present government there has been of course the major

reform of the Australian industrial relations system. We now have

the lowest number of industrial disputes in 90 years and I think in

a sense as far as reform is concerned, industrial relations over the

last couple of years has been, to use an Australian expression, the

bolter. I think what it has done is to produce a greater boost to

productivity than many people imagined. The reforms went much further

than some of the critics two or three years ago suggested. And finally,

of course although the tax reforms haven't come into place I do think

that the fact that we were able to embrace tax reform and get it through

has given a great deal of heart to people who believe in the long-term

cause of reform.

So the answer to your question is that it's the fruit of a series

of measures taken and I'm very happy to acknowledge the contribution

of the former government in a couple of areas in relation to financial

deregulation and tariff reform. Without that we wouldn't have been

as good. But I will make the point that in Opposition we supported

the former government in relation to both of those things, so you've

seen the benefits of 10 or 15 years of intelligent reform.

Withholding tax I should tell you that we will be getting the major

recommendations of our business tax review committee at the end of

this month. So I won't try and speculate as to what it might recommend

but it has been a very comprehensive review.

The other thing, can I emphasise, is in relation to the first question

that the skilful management of a flexible exchange rate meant that

we were able to divert exports away from weakening markets towards

other markets when the Asian downturn hit and that has been a very

major reason why we have done so well.

JOURNALIST:

Michael Millett, Sydney Morning Herald and Melbourne Age.

Japan is coming under increasing pressure both internally and externally

to adopt some of the structural economic reforms that you have just

been referring to. In your talks with senior Japanese business leaders

over the past few days do you detect a willingness and capacity of

Japanese industry to undertake what are often painful reforms such

as labour market restructuring?

PRIME MINISTER:

Michael, yes to a greater extent than I have found in the past, yes.

JOURNALIST:

Head of the International Division within the [inaudible]. I am also

a member of the planning committee here at this National Press Club.

I'd like to ask a question about how you foresee the future of APEC.

APEC was a forum created under the leadership of Prime Minister Hawke

back in 1989 and in 1994 it set objectives for further liberalisation

at Bogor. However, some say that APEC has been losing momentum as

a result of various factors inclusive of the downturn in the Asian

economies and also the financial turmoil in the Asian economies. Some

even say that the role of APEC has now been concluded. I am wondering

if you could share with us how you foresee the future of APEC and

its role thank you.

PRIME MINISTER:

A fair amount will depend on how the next meeting goes. The last meeting

we really marked time. What happens at the next meeting will be quite

important. I am still optimistic but we have had a decision from the

American administration overnight on lamb exports from Australia and

New Zealand which does not bode particularly well for the cause of

more open trade. But we will continue to argue very strongly the important

role of APEC but clearly the next meeting will be quite important.

Could I just add that APEC is still the best medium, longer-term hope

for the region. It's still offers a lot more hope by way of higher

living standards and growth particularly for some of the poorer countries

of the region than any other understanding.

JOURNALIST:

Nigel Blunden from the Macquarie Radio Network, Mr Howard. In your

talks with Prime Minister Obuchi and the other government officials

how do you believe your message on free trade has been received?

PRIME MINISTER:

It's very clearly understood. I'll know whether it's been received

when I know the outcome of some of the gatherings over the next few

months particularly the APEC gathering. It's outcomes that really

matter in relation to things such as trade liberalisation rather than

rhetoric. Now, there's a general commitment to further trade liberalisation,

there's a very strong commitment to a comprehensive WTO round. I think

all of us have to wait and see what the final outcome is.

JOURNALIST:

Thank you very much. I am from the Mainichi Shimbun newspaper a question

about East Timor. Australia has made a substantial commitment to the

situation in East Timor however if we compare interest of the Japanese

commitment if we compare the past Japanese commitments to countries

such as Cambodia it seems that the current Japanese commitment to

East Timor seems to be less robust. Prime Minister, what is your view

on the Japanese commitment to East Timor?

PRIME MINISTER:

Could I answer that in the context of Japan's very generous contribution

to helping the region through recent economic difficulties. Japan

has been very generous and along with Australia the only other country

to contribute to each of the three rescue packages. It is to be expected

that because of the proximity of East Timor to Australia and the history

between our two.or the territory and our country, that Australia would

make a big contribution. That's to be expected. So I don't think it's

strictly fair to contrast Japan's contribution with Australia's given

that there is a clear and evident proximity in the case of Australia.

We would naturally make the point that if there is a continuing burden

in relation to East Timor it can't be born by Australia alone. And

we do need help from other countries and thus far that help has been

forthcoming although Australia is making a very big contribution.

JOURNALIST:

Hello, this is Bruce Elsworth with Bridge Financial News and I have

questions about your statement that it said, "skilful foreign

exchange management has helped to redirect exports to other markets"

and I am wondering if this means that you think a continued weak Australian

dollar will be necessary to maintain exports? And also a question

about unemployment rate - if you have any future goals for further

reductions in the unemployment rate? Thank you.

PRIME MINISTER:

I never talk about the level of the Australian dollar only its skilful

management. I express no view about future levels. As far as unemployment

goals are concerned our only goal is to drive unemployment down as

low as possible. We don't have a particular numerical target we just

want to get it as low as possible. We are pleased it has come down

but we still have a long way to go.

JOURNALIST:

Two questions if I may. A question about agriculture. You talked about

seeking greater access for agricultural products. I wonder if you

could be more specific as to what you will be pursuing, for example,

are you going to be seeking further reductions in the tariff rate

or will you be seeking greater allocation within the minimum access

vis a vis Australian products? Do you have any specific, shall we

say, proposals or suggestions that you have brought with you on this

visit? And secondly, did you have any concrete discussions with the

members of the Japanese Government during your visit about expanding

access?

PRIME MINISTER:

Well, we take the view that in an area like this there's no hard and

fast and better way of achieving access. It varies according to product,

it varies according to circumstance. There has been an improvement.

We acknowledge that but it is still a market that in many areas, as

we found was rice, is not easy to break and we still have a long distance

to go. And the general desirability of greater access, of course,

is swept up in the world trade round. If you have a successful world

trade outcome you have greater access because markets that are currently

closed are open or further liberalised as a result of the world trade

outcome. It's not something that you can do entirely on a bilateral

basis. It's better to be done within a multilateral framework.

JOURNALIST:

Prime Minister, Fran Kelly from the Australian Broadcasting Corporation.

The World Heritage Bureau is meeting in Paris on Kakadu and the question

of whether to list Kakadu as world heritage in danger. The decision

won't be made until Monday but I understand there are some signals

coming already. Can you give us any update on how the Australian Government

thinks it's going?

PRIME MINISTER:

Well, I have a natural caution - born of political experience - about

interpreting early returns, Fran. I don't know what is going to come

out of it. We do not believe that it should be listed as endangered

and we have put a very strong case - very strong case. But you will

also know that the Australian Government is resolute in the belief

that proper environmental concerns have already been taken into account.

We do not believe that there should be any departure from decisions

already taken and there will not be any departure because we believe

within the domestic sovereignty of Australia all care has been taken

and all proper procedures have been followed.

JOURNALIST:

Associated Press Television News. We have a question regarding PNG

and Taiwan. So [inaudible] raising around so it could [inaudible]

the prosperity in regional economy, regional prosperity. So Mr Skate

has stepped down. So how is Australia viewing the situation and also

is there any possibility at all for Australia to consider to take

some sort of measurement of PNG in Taiwan? PNG's policy towards Taiwan.

PRIME MINISTER:

What was the.what was the last bit about Australia?

JOURNALIST:

Is there any possibility for Australia to consider to take some sort

of measurement..

PRIME MINISTER:

Some measures?

JOURNALIST:

Some sort of steps towards PNG's policy towards Taiwan?

PRIME MINISTER:

Well, I am not going to comment on the domestic politics of Papua

New Guinea. Mr Skate has stood down and it's up to the political processes

of his country to chose a successor. I merely say that Australian

governments for some years now have adhered very strongly to a one

China policy and I repeat that position today. We recognise the people's

Republic of China and that remains the position. That does not prevent

us having productive commercial associations with Taiwan. We'll continue

to do that in accordance with well understood modalities but we don't

intend in any way as far as Australia is concerned to divert from

the one China policy.

JOURNALIST:

Asahi Shimbun Newspaper. Many view that the Asian currency or financial

turmoil has subsided at least for the time being and that the Asian

economies are on their way to recovery. In the last two years Australian

Government, as well as the Central Bank, has made substantial contribution

toward the stabilisation of this situation in the Asian economies.

Now having said that, some predict the possibility of the resurgence

of financial turmoil in Asia down the road and there has been much

discussion about introduction of preventive mechanisms so within the

Asian economies vis--vis the resurgence of financial turmoil in the

future. Two years ago Japan with an understanding had proposed the

possible establishment of the so-called Asian Monetary Fund as a way

to prevent financial turmoil in the Asian economies. I wonder how

the Australian Government would react to such a fund and such preventative

mechanisms? Would Australia be supportive and do you think that Australia

might even take a very active role by making financial contribution

to such fund? Thank you.

PRIME MINISTER:

We are in favour of some reforms to the international financial system.

We're not particularly attracted to the regionalisation of the international

financial architecture. That has been our position for some time.

We don't support the possible emergence of an Asian IMF. We don't

think that makes sense and I would have thought from a long term point

of view given Japan's status as a world financial power it necessarily

makes long term sense for this country either.

JOURNALIST:

I'm afraid time is fast running out so if I may use or abuse the prerogative

of the moderator I would like to ask the final question if I may.

Here in Japan we now have a discussion over the possible designation

of the song Kimi Gayo as the national song. Kimi Gayo has

unofficially been treated as the national song for Japan for many,

many years and now we're talking about the possible official designation

of the song Kimi Gayo as the national song. However, there are parties

or camps that are strongly opposed to the official designation of

this song as the national song or national anthem rather. When I was

covering Australia some 23 to 24 years ago I recall this similar type

of discussion that ensued in your society as to whether or not to

designate God Save the Queen or Advance Australia as Australian national

anthem. I wonder if you could share with us Prime Minister what the

most difficult part was you believe in designating Advance Australia

as the Australian national anthem. Also if you have any views as to

the designation of Kimi Gayo as the national anthem I would

appreciate it and we would certainly appreciate any advice that an

Australian Prime Minister can make on this point. Thank you.

PRIME MINISTER:

Well I will take the second part of the question first and say I don't

offer a view as to what Japan's national anthem should be. On the

designation of Advance Australia Fair that in fact was made the national

anthem of Australia by a proclamation of the Hawke Government in 1984

following a plebiscite in which it received more support from the

Australian people that any of the alternatives. But in the interests

of full disclosure I should tell you that in that plebiscite I personally

voted for an alternative and that was Waltzing Matilda. But I should

quickly add that Advance Australia Fair has become very widely accepted,

very enthusiastically sung and I don't mean by that personal confession

to in any way reopen debate. But I do like Waltzing Matilda.

JOURNALIST:

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