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Transcripts from the Prime Ministers of Australia

Howard, John

Period of Service: 11/03/1996 - 03/12/2007
Release Date:
07/01/1999
Release Type:
Interview
Transcript ID:
11200
Released by:
  • Howard, John Winston
TRANSCRIPT OF THE ACTING PRIME MINISTER THE HON TIM FISCHER MP RADIO INTERVIEW WITH SALLY SARA AM PROGRAMME

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ACTING PRIME MINISTER:

It is time the Democrats stopped fudging on these issues and faced

up to their responsibilities on the floor of the Senate when we come

to that critical vote on tax reform later this year.

SARA:

Can Jeff Kennett play a useful role as a provocateur in reform debates

like health, and the GST?

ACTING PRIME MINISTER:

I'm too busy to dwell on the roles of State Premiers. I agree

with his comments that the $300 break through private health insurance

incentive is a great step forward which is being taken up by hundreds

of people already in this first week of January. And that in its own

way is going to further help the hospital and health system right

across Australia.

SARA:

Mr Fischer, there were reports this morning that top public service

chiefs will be receiving a 40% pay rise. If that's true, how

can it be justified?

ACTING PRIME MINISTER:

I note that in one of those reports if they were to get the full rise

indicated they would still be behind those of New South Wales and

Victorian equivalent top public servants. That means Australia is

paying our federal senior public servants, who have to perform to

contracts, less than State governments are paying their senior public

servants. Those same State government public servants who seem to

think nothing of maintaining a credit card system for senior ministers

and senior State public servants, that has been used and abused for

years and ought to have been straightened out by them by now, and

yet they still get more pay. I will defend the federal government

having a remuneration level which will enable us to attract the competent,

cut through administrators we must have in the governance of this

country.

SARA:

So if there were a rise of around 40% to take the Commonwealth public

service chiefs up to the level of some of their State counterparts,

that would be justified in principle in your view?

ACTING PRIME MINISTER:

I think unfortunately we have no choice in the matter if we are to

have the level of capability and competence and maintain that. The

challenge that is put to these senior federal public servants is quite

onerous and they deserve remuneration.

SARA:

Mr Fischer, on a separate issue, fresh allegations were raised last

night on an SBS television programme of torture and killing of civilians

by Indonesians troops in East Timor. What will Australia do to investigate

these claims?

ACTING PRIME MINISTER:

The federal Government will evaluate any fresh evidence. It's

something that I'll be asking Foreign Affairs and Trade to look

into this day. Obviously there needs to be every effort made to ascertain

the extent of any massacre that occurred last year as opposed to previously

in East Timor and the Australian Government would view that with the

greatest concern.

SARA:

The Indonesian Government has denied the claims. Isn't that assurance

good enough for the Australian Government?

ACTING PRIME MINISTER:

Well I'm not in a position to answer that right at this time.

I have not seen the detail of the fresh allegations.

SARA:

On a separate foreign affairs issue, the United Nations Secretary

General, Kofi Annan, has reportedly raised concerns that UNSCOM may

have helped the United States spy on the Iraqis. Do you have any information

regarding those claims.

ACTING PRIME MINISTER:

Richard Butler is of course not employed by the Australian Government.

But Richard Butler has fully denied those claims. I make note of that

but I don't comment in detail on matters which relate to security.

But I do note that Butler himself has said there is no truth in those

claims.

SARA:

Could this undermine further though the position of the United States

the fact that these allegations have been raised?

ACTING PRIME MINISTER:

It's too early to say that but these are matters which have been

denied by someone who should know after all, and that is head of UNSCOM,

Richard Butler.

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