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Howard, John

Period of Service: 11/03/1996 - 03/12/2007
Release Date:
07/01/1998
Release Type:
Interview
Transcript ID:
11199
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  • Howard, John Winston
TRANSCRIPT OF THE ACTING PRIME MINISTER THE HON TIM FISCHER MP PRESS CONFERENCE – PARLIAMENT HOUSE

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ACTING PRIME MINISTER:

On behalf of the Government and in liaison with the portfolio Minister

responsible for the Infrastructure Borrowing Taxation Offset scheme,

IBTOS, that's Minister for Transport and Regional Services, John

Anderson, I'm pleased to make some announcements here today.

Subject to certain conditions the Federal Government expects to approve

four national infrastructure projects worth more than $900 million,

and they will receive this very valuable tax rebate and allow further

facilitation of the implementation of these projects.

The four projects which have been endorsed to this stage by the Federal

Cabinet are as follows: $400 million eastern gas pipeline which will

run from Longford, near Sale in Victoria, to Sydney, extending Australia's

gas distribution network; a $170 million construction of a new international

and domestic passenger terminal at Adelaide Airport, badly needed;

the building of a $154 million gas fired co-generation plant producing

electricity and steam for major manufacturing plants within the Botany

industrial area in Sydney; and assistance to Melbourne's City

Link Road project involving extension to Exhibition Street and production

of world-leading electronic transponder technology.

These are the first infrastructure projects that have qualified to

receive assistance under the Coalition's Infrastructure Borrowing

Tax Offset Scheme. The granting of tax offsets for these projects

will allow all of them to proceed with minimal delay. In highlighting

our commitment to nation building, it demonstrates the partnership

the governments can forge with the private sector to generate economic

growth, to sustain

further economic growth, in an economy growing well at the start of

1999 in sharp contrast to such places as Hong Kong, -8%; Korea, -6%;

and Japan, the second largest economy in the world, -2.6% at this

time. It's a perfect example of the Government's approach

to improving Australia's infrastructure which has such a major

impact on business costs, and the lowering of those costs. This assistance

will generate jobs and improve our environmental circumstance. It

is a win-win situation.

In terms of jobs, these projects offer the potential of up to 6,800

new jobs, with the bulk of them in fact being in regional Australia

in places like Sale, Bairnsdale, Orbost, Bombala, Cooma, Queanbeyan,

Nowra and Wollongong, as well as jobs extra in Adelaide, Melbourne

and Sydney. These projects will also contribute to the manufacture

of world beating technology, state of the art; reduction of greenhouse

gas emissions; and a reduction in traffic congestion, as well as increasing

tourism opportunities.

On the eastern gas pipeline, whilst there was just before Christmas

an announcement in respect of change of ownership with regard to that

project, this is the first time that the Federal Government has given

its clearance and it will involve economic benefits to many regional

centres. Not only will it provide reticulated gas to some areas for

the first time and contribute to a more competitive gas market elsewhere,

but further jobs will be created. 1,100 during construction and indirectly

up to 6,000 new jobs attached to that one project of the eastern gas

pipeline. A stronger national gas grid can reduce the likelihood of

the energy shortage that crippled Victoria for a period last year.

It will also help reduce greenhouse gas emissions by 2 million tonnes

annually by 2010.

The Adelaide Airport terminal, many of you would have been caught

in a thunderstorm, or on a frosty morning with the gate-less elements

of the Adelaide existing airport terminal. By the year 2001, the people

of Adelaide will have a state of the art domestic and international

terminal. As a crucial element of South Australia's economic

fabric the Adelaide Airport redevelopment can stimulate export growth,

increase revenue from inbound tourism, and promote Adelaide as a base

for complimentary capital investment. It will generate about 350 jobs

during construction, and directly contribute towards 800 permanent

new jobs.

The Melbourne City Link project, while aspects have been previously

announced, this is the clearance for a modified aspect of that key

City Link project which is of course well under construction at this

time. The Government assistance to the City Link project will help

deliver direct savings to the Victorian economy of about $265 million

annually. The City Link extension involved will further reduce traffic

congestion in Melbourne's streets. But just as importantly our

assistance towards the production of in-car transponders to be used

on City Link encourages the local manufacturers of world standard

technology to go ahead with an export program which would perhaps

not have otherwise taken place. 600,000 of these transponders will

be produced at the Melbourne factory which is the biggest order for

a road project any where in the world. The Government's assistance

helps ensure the adoption of a uniform national system for electric,

or electronic polling.

And then the Botany co-generation facility. The Government's

assistance to the construction of a Botany co-generation facility

will have a direct impact in reducing business costs for local industries,

encouraging a more competitive electricity market, and lowering greenhouse

gas missions in the Botany industrial area by an estimated 235,000

tonnes a year. It will generate economic savings of over $5 million

a year, and avoid a further $142 million in costs. These are powerful

economic arguments of providing the assistance. If it puts a spark

into my New South Wales State Coalition colleagues to get moving with

regard to their State election as they are now in real time, then

that might also help.

Not all projects that applied for a tax rebate under this scheme have

been successful. A number are in a second round for further consideration.

Others are in different categories. For example the Tumut super mill

involving Visy, that's in a separate category and it's been

approved by the Federal Government and announced just before Christmas.

And it's a very exciting project for the Riverina and Monaro

regions, the start of art brown craft mill which will be located at

a very useful site at Tumut. In fact over 30 projects Australia wide

applied, ranging from road, rail and port projects, to gas pipe lines

and electricity generating projects. Some of those have missed out

also. Of course, can be further considered down the track pursuant

to the second round as I mentioned. The Commissioner of Taxation is

likely to make a second call for projects under this IBTOS scheme

next month.

These four projects announced today still have some hoops to jump

through. However the successful projects have been advised of their

conditional approval and the conditions under which the rebate will

apply. Subject to that satisfactory environmental process and assessment,

my colleague John Anderson, the Minister for Transport and Regional

Services, expects to give the final approval to these projects in

detail. The rebate will also be subject to the financial arrangements

of the projects being satisfactory to the ATO. We don't expect

any great difficulty in that regard. If the arrangements are approved

formally then all the relevant parties will enter into the lock-in

agreements associated with the IBTOS scheme.

For a tax rebate of up to about $71 million over five years, today's

announcement ensures that $900 million worth of infrastructure projects

can commence without delay generating thousands of jobs, environmental

benefits and economic growth. It is a worthy investment in Australia's

future. It is the first formal clearance and announcement subject

to those conditions, under the restructured Infrastructure Borrowing

Tax Offset Scheme, which is the new scheme replacing the previous

scheme, the subject of some abuse and rorting in the past in which

both Peter Costello and now John Anderson in another capacity have

carriage of and I am very much pleased to make this announcement this

day on behalf of the Australian Government.

JOURNALIST:

Mr Fischer, is it fair to say that these four projects would have

proceeded regardless of the rebate scheme?

ACTING PRIME MINISTER:

Not absolutely....that cannot be absolutely said to be the case.

There is a fair chance that they would have otherwise proceeded. This

certainly makes the facilitation of these projects smoother and more

efficient, and I have no hesitation in stating that those directly

involved and the stakeholders directly involved will welcome this

facilitation.

JOURNALIST:

Mr Fischer, the Government's talked before about not picking

winners in terms of investment projects. How does the Government reconcile

that view about not picking out any particular industries in the decision

today to not grant these tax breaks.

ACTING PRIME MINISTER:

That's a fair question and that of course goes to the classic

arguments associated with that hoary old debate over picking winners.

In a perfect world, governments should set parameters and generic

programs and then step right back. But there is no such thing as an

absolute pure market place. There is no such thing as a level playing

field. And as a consequence glitches and points of congestion to occur.

It's with that in mind that on a very cautious basis, the Federal

Government has proceeded with the IBTOS scheme and what's more,

these projects are assessed against vigorous selection criteria which

is spelled out in the legislation. This is not just a hit and miss

process, a whim of a Cabinet Minister or ten. They are evaluated by

experts in the Department of Transport and Regional Services with

assistance from the Australian Tax Office. They are then considered

by an inter-departmental committee of officials. Recommendations then

go to the Employment and Infrastructure Committee of Cabinet as an

additional stage, then ultimately to the full Cabinet. It is a very

careful and rigorous process of selection, and as I say Cabinet now

has signed off on these four to this stage of approval under the process

and these are the first four. I think in 1999, the start of 1999 with

an economy growing at +5% there can be no complacency. That's

the figure historically for the last 12 months. The next 12 months

as we officially say, this will notch back. This is also an element

of activity and facilitation by the Federal Government to ensure onward

economic growth through what could be a very difficult trading period

world-wide.

JOURNALIST:

Mr Fischer, the total cost to Government is $71 million over five

years....

ACTING PRIME MINISTER:

Loss of revenue in a sense.

JOURNALIST:

[inaudible] revenue foregone, that's the total cost, there's

no additional cost as a result of this project ...?

ACTING PRIME MINISTER:

That is correct with regard to these four. But of course as they gather

momentum they will themselves generate additional revenue. There is

still money available within the cap for additional projects to be

approved. The scheme is capped at a total of $75 million per annum.

JOURNALIST:

Mr Fischer, you mentioned [inaudible] to go through. Can you say broadly

what they are?

ACTING PRIME MINISTER:

The criteria's straight out in the legislation. Basically they

have to stack up environmentally and be a environmental positive -

all things considered. They have to stack up in terms of sensible

broad parameters, and cost benefit, and not constitute yet another

disguised scheme from the big end of town to rort the payment of taxation.

And that's where the infrastructure bonds and other schemes went

wrong was the fact that the big end of town could climb into these

schemes, find the right apparatus to in fact get away with blue murder,

reduce their taxation exposure, but not actually do anything about

building actual infrastructure at the end of the day. The criteria,

laid out in the legislation, I refer you to that, but above all else

I don't underestimate, and neither would you my friend, the rigor

of the Australian Tax Office on a range of matters including ensuring

that these are not shonk projects but real and valuable projects.

JOURNALIST:

[inaudible] outstanding hoops to jump through.

ACTING PRIME MINISTER:

That is the process yet to come is the environmental final sign off.

Essentially they are through all other hoops and Cabinet has approved

to that stage.

JOURNALIST:

[inaudible] project in Queensland an applicant also under this scheme

and if so what's occurred with that project?

ACTING PRIME MINISTER:

Fair question and I just want to check but I think I am right in saying

that they are in another category, yes. And they are not - it's

always the case of coming in with too many papers - there's one

other page which will tell me that. They are in a separate category

as was Visy as I mentioned. If you like, for a rule of thumb description

they are in the Mansfield process. I would like to take this opportunity

to say I spent four days - unusually long period of time - quite deliberately

going to Papua New Guinea just a week before Christmas. I was uneasy

about the capability of that project to supply gas from the very challenging

terrain of that part of Papua New Guinea and the other difficulties

including the local politics associated with major resource projects

in Papua New Guinea. I am very pleased to say today that having gone

out to Lake Kutubu, having gone through the terrain of the existing

oil field, which will gradually move to gas production under the project,

I am well satisfied on two counts that it's up to the experts

to say the field of gas is there and I gather it is but also the way

they have put the infrastructure into that area is very careful and

very cunning and with great care and respect to the environment. I

am satisfied on that count. But more particularly the one thing I

really wanted to look at was the extent of village liaison and cooperation

the Port Moresby royalty equation that does other things doesn't

it. It is on the ground liaison and cooperation of the project with,

and I am pleased to say that there is a huge programme involved practically

with health education in the surrounding villages. A bit like Ok Tedi

And unlike what Bougainville did 20 years ago which laid the pathway

for all that happened there. I mean, there was a huge gap between

the project and the local people. I actually am very happy to say

that there's a lot of good news stories in Papua New Guinea.

One of the best I believe that the lateral thinking project to provide

a pipeline from Papua New Guinea to Gladstone stacks up in terms of

the ability of the equation at the start point and the ability to

produce the gas and supply the gas to feed into that pipeline.

JOURNALIST:

Mr Fischer, do the Commonwealth's most senior public servants

deserve a 40 per cent pay rise?

ACTING PRIME MINISTER:

Okay, any other questions on this and I'll come to that?

JOURNALIST:

[Inaudible]

ACTING PRIME MINISTER:

We've had an extraordinarily busy 1998. They're in various

stages of being processed. Bob Mansfield's been extremely busy.

There's no great delay but in the case of the pipeline I think

the next move is with private enterprise at Gladstone and that end

of the equation Cabinet stands ready and the Prime Minister, John

Howard, stands ready to really drive this process along with Minister

for Industry, Nick Minchin. And I don't anticipate any great

delays. We got Visy away before Christmas, but after the election

and quite deliberately so that the announcement might be seen in a

very non-partisan light and seen for what it is. Okay, now turning

to your question, you might care to repeat it although I do remember

it.

JOURNALIST:

Do the Commonwealth top public servants, most senior public servants

deserve a 40 per cent pay rise or can it be justified?

ACTING PRIME MINISTER:

Well, that's your figure, not mine. And at the end of the day

there is a process to be completed. I can confirm that no final decision

has been made with regard to the amount of pay increase for federal

public servants, senior federal public servants. The whole matter

is still before the remuneration tribunal. I note from some reports

today of suggestions of a very large pay rise. At the end of the process

I do not anticipate that it will be as large as has been variously

reported today. That, of course, leaves the situation where many senior

federal public servants will be below the pay levels of senior State

public servants. As I said on AM this morning, the Federal

Government has little choice but to properly remunerate senior public

servants so that we can have quality, cut-through, capable administrators.

And we have a very strong team of senior public servants. One of the

delights of being in Federal Government has been the very professional

high standard I have encountered with regard to the public service

in general and the senior public service specifically. We have slipped

behind the pace, and just to flesh that out one little bit more I

point out that for 1997 the Secretaries of Federal departments received

a 1.5 per cent pay increase. For 1998, they received a two per cent

pay increase. Compare that, happily in one sense, under 13 years of

the Federal Labor Government real earnings for Australians, there's

inflation adjusted wages and salaries rose by six per cent. But in

the two years the Federal Coalition has been in power the comparative

figure is in fact real wages rose by 10 per cent. So Australian workers

have had a 10 per cent pay rise in the first couple of years of the

Federal Coalition Government. It happens that senior federal public

servants have had a 3.5 per cent pay rise and there's been further

slippage against the State public servants. Now, I just would make

the point I really don't want to spend too much time in the position

of having to defend what has not yet been finally decided. But I will

defend the principle, the feds ultimately will get the quality of

service from their public service and their senior elements of their

public service for which we pay. And if we don't pay a reasonable

amount then we are going to have a drop off in that performance. I

might add, as the Prime Minister has pointed out, there's no

permanency any more. These are quite specific performance orientated

contracts and that factor should be taken into account.

JOURNALIST:

Has the Government recommended to the remuneration tribunal what the

pay rise should be?

ACTING PRIME MINISTER:

There's an ongoing process, it has not been completed. Ultimately

it comes back to the Government and therefore I cannot confirm or

deny any particular amount. But is the tribunal considering this matter?

Yes they are. Is there some proper liaison with the Government with

regard to that consideration? Yes there is - but that is internal

to the process of the Government. At the end of the day, will and

should we be paying senior federal public servants more? Yes we should.

And it is not the most popular cause to defend but these are the other

elements of having the privilege of being the Deputy Prime Minister

and Acting Prime Minister in the first fortnight of each January.

JOURNALIST:

Should Max Moore-Wilton be part of this process? He is basically pushing

the process that will give him a pay rise that's been reported

to be about $80,000?

ACTING PRIME MINISTER:

One thing about the Cabinet processes under John Howard is that he

does not hesitate to ask those directly affected by discussions in

the Cabinet room to leave the Cabinet room for the duration of those

discussions. Whilst I don't reveal the detailed operations of

Cabinet or the content of those discussions I will say on this occasion

that there's been rigorous application of that quite correct

practice.

JOURNALIST:

[Inaudible] fair, Mr Fischer?

ACTING PRIME MINISTER:

I am not an expert on the remuneration of public servants, federal

or State. But I am an expert on one other thing, this business of

credit cards being issued to State ministers of the Crown year on

year, used and abused. To be fair, they are very busy people, they'll

inevitably make mistakes, they will confuse personal payments with

proper payments which should be reimbursed by the Crown in relation

to their activities as ministers. If State public servants with their

big pay can't sort out one thing they might like to start 1999

by sorting out the credit card shamozzle at the State level which

has led to ministers having to resign, led to difficulties at various

States around this land. I, as Deputy Prime Minister of this country,

do not have a Commonwealth Government credit card. If I have an expenditure

as I belt through seven countries since polling day on working trade

Visyts I have to submit a cheque for that and get reimbursed or there's

another very tight process that applies. If it's good enough

for the Deputy Prime Minister of this country and all my ministerial

colleagues not to have a governmental credit card then perhaps these

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