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Transcripts from the Prime Ministers of Australia

Howard, John

Period of Service: 11/03/1996 - 03/12/2007
Release Date:
20/02/1999
Release Type:
Interview
Transcript ID:
11089
Released by:
  • Howard, John Winston
20 February 1999 TRANSCRIPT OF THE PRIME MINISTER THE HON JOHN HOWARD MP DOORSTOP INTERVIEW QUEENSTOWN AIRPORT, QUEENSTOWN, NEW ZEALAND

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JOURNALIST:

Are you happy to be in New Zealand, Mr Howard?

PRIME MINISTER HOWARD:

Always happy to be in New Zealand.

PRIME MINISTER SHIPLEY:

And we're thrilled to have him here too by the way.

PRIME MINISTER HOWARD:

Yes. It's a beautiful spot this.

JOURNALIST:

Mr Howard, what's New Zealand got to teach Australia at the moment?

PRIME MINISTER HOWARD:

Oh, I think we have a lot to teach each other. We have a lot of shared

history but most importantly we have a shared future as two societies

quite distinctive but having an enormous amount in common. We always

work together very closely. We have a common future in APEC. CER has

been a great success and I think a boom for both countries and I just

find it a naturally close association.

JOURNALIST:

How critical is it for you to see APEC be successful this year?

PRIME MINISTER HOWARD:

Well, I think long-term APEC offers a great future for all of the

societies that are part of it. And although there were some disappointments

at the Kuala Lumpur meeting, there were a lot of successes, particularly

in relation to remaking the world's financial architecture. And

New Zealand, of course, will be in the chair this year. I'm very

keen to work with Mrs Shipley and I know that Australia will want

to do all it can to make it a very successful meeting and I'm

sure it will be.

JOURNALIST:

Mr Howard, what do you think you'll learn about the GST now that

you'll see it up close over the next few days?

PRIME MINISTER HOWARD:

Well, the message I get about the GST out of New Zealand is that it

stopped being an issue years ago and that it's been an absolutely

outstanding success, as it will be in Australia.

JOURNALIST:

Prime Minister, will you be raising the question of East Timor with

Mrs Shipley and would there be any suggestion that you would like

to see New Zealand involved in any joint aid operations or otherwise?

PRIME MINISTER HOWARD:

Well, I'm sure it will come up because it's a very important

regional issue and New Zealand and Australia always work together

in relation to important regional issues. Naturally Australia has,

by dint of history and geography, has an even greater connection with

the area than New Zealand but it's a regional issue. And just

as we work together in relation to Bougainville then the same thing

applies. But I also see particular responsibilities for Australia

given our history and our proximity to the area involved.

JOURNALIST:

Mrs Shipley, do you believe that New Zealand should be involved in

any joint peacekeeping in East Timor?

PRIME MINISTER SHIPLEY:

I think it's early days. I'm very much looking forward to

hearing the briefing from the Prime Minister. Obviously Australia

is very close to Timor and have insights that we will listen to and

take into account. I think it's premature to say what involvement

is required but certainly if peacekeeping is required then that's

something New Zealanders always wanted to contribute. But I think

it's premature to get to that point first.

PRIME MINISTER HOWARD:

Absolutely.

JOURNALIST:

Do you feel you're under any pressure from Australia to have

the Auckland APEC be successful?

PRIME MINISTER SHIPLEY:

Not pressure, we have mutual interest in these things. I think the

great success of CER is that it's really an open market of two

countries as free traders by nature. APEC presents huge opportunities

and I've been very grateful to Prime Minister Howard and his

willingness to share both technical and logistical assistance with

New Zealand as we plan for our year. And we have a mutual interest

in being successful and I'm sure we will be.

JOURNALIST:

What's the main topic on your agenda for these talks?

PRIME MINISTER SHIPLEY:

I think the APEC issue and seeing that the events of this year are

hugely successful is in our mutual interest. I'm looking forward

to seeing that we take the chance to plan to see that our events and

the events that are going to happen in Australia over the next 18

months or two years, that if there any ways we can boost tourism into

the Australasian region that we take the opportunities to do that

because so many visitors now come to both countries and there may

well be ways we can work together. From own point of view, other than

the bilateral and the CER issues, I'm very interested in hearing

Prime Minister Howard's views on the drug issue. Australia has

been dealing with a very significant increase in heroin recently.

It's something my own government is looking at and I'm looking

forward personally to having a chance to talk to him and get his insights

into how that worked on that issue. So it's a good chance to

deal with domestic issues that we can learn and share with each other

as well as the bilateral issues.

JOURNALIST:

On the drug issue, Prime Minister, last night in Melbourne two heroin

addicts died of overdoses and 16 addicts had overdoses, do you believe

that now there's time to look more seriously at alternatives

because it's fairly clear that current matters aren't working?

PRIME MINISTER HOWARD:

Well, if you mean by that has my attitude on a heroin trial changed,

well, the answer is no, it hasn't. And I will, over the weeks

ahead, be saying more about this issue and explaining in more detail

why I don't believe a heroin trial is the answer to an admittedly

very difficult problem. Heroin trials in other countries have not

been successful. I invite those who are so enthusiastically advocating

heroin trials in Australia to have a look at the Swedish experience,

to have a look at the Merseyside experience in the United Kingdom,

to have a look at the limited Swiss experience, to have a look at

what is occurring in the United States where that approach has not

been taken. It is a difficult problem and no approach carries all

the answers. And to rather simplistically say every day, well, there

were such and such a number of overdoses therefore you have to embrace,

without much thought, some other approach is not necessarily an answer.

I mean, I am always ready to listen to alternatives but the alternative

of a heroin trial, which has been tried in other countries, is not

one that appeals to me and I can say that the Federal Government is

not disposed to alter its stance on that. We have put an unprecedented

level of resources into fighting drugs on three fronts – law

enforcement, treatment and education. Now, the benefits of that Tough

on Drugs strategy are now beginning to flow through but it's

altogether too early to make a judgement because it's only in

the last 12 months or less that the benefits of those additional resources

have begun to flow through. But it is a menace and the idea that in

any way we should suggest that it's acceptable in our society

is not something that I would ever embrace and I think I speak for

millions of Australian parents who do not see the right signal being

sent through the introduction of a heroin trial. So my view has not

changed on that and I will, over the weeks ahead, be saying quite

a bit more about the reasons why my view hasn't changed.

JOURNALIST:

Will you be looking to Mr Howard for some advice on how to deal with

difficult MPs that cause you a few problems...?

PRIME MINISTER SHIPLEY:

I'm sure we could learn a lot from each other but I'm sure

we're both capable of managing our own caucuses perfectly satisfactorily

as well.

JOURNALIST:

You've got some advice, you've had to deal with some...

PRIME MINISTER HOWARD:

Oh, no, look, I'm absolutely certain that Mrs Shipley can handle

the domestic political situation and I'm looking forward, of

course, as well as talking to her about matters of mutual political

interest between the two countries, one always on gatherings such

as this, one always exchanges notes about domestic politics but I

don't presume to give any advice about the management of New

Zealand political parties. I think anybody who becomes Prime Minister

of a nation has demonstrated very clearly his or her capacity to handle

the domestic politics of that nation without outside advice.

JOURNALIST:

Mrs Shipley, do you have any advice to the Prime Minister on a GST

on food? You'd be aware of the debate in Australia. Would you

be advising him to hold the line and apply it as broadly as possible?

PRIME MINISTER SHIPLEY:

Well, I don't advise the Prime Minister of Australia but clearly

this is an opportunity for us to share information. I've had

a chance to talk to a number of Australian ministers who have come

here to talk about how it works in New Zealand. We've been very

frank with them. I mean, it's a great success in New Zealand.

There's not a single political party of any significance that

is proposing the removal of GST and I think that speaks for itself.

JOURNALIST:

And how was the landing coming in here to Queenstown?

PRIME MINISTER HOWARD:

Fantastic.

JOURNALIST:

It was a fairly hairy way...

PM:

Oh but, you know, the RAAF pilots are terrific - never miss a beat

when you're with the RAAF.

JOURNALIST:

Mr Howard, Jeff Kennett says that immigration numbers in Australia

should be doubled. Given most of our migrants come from New Zealand,

is that something you would consider?

PRIME MINISTER HOWARD:

Well, we're always happy to have people from New Zealand in Australia.

They're always very, very welcome. I think the balance of the

Australian migration programme at the moment is right. We have changed

it since we came to power. We've put a greater emphasis on business

migration. I don't see a case for a dramatic increase at the

moment but it's always been part and parcel of our policy that

we would adjust it over time according to economic and other circumstances.

We have an annual review of migration, that's been the pattern

for years under both Labor and Liberal governments in Australia. There'll

be another submission put by the Minister to the Cabinet fairly soon

and we'll make a decision about next year's intake. But

I don't see a case at the moment for any dramatic change. I think

we have got the mix right. But I'm very happy to have a debate

about this issue in Australia. I always have been. And if people want

to contribute ideas on it, Mr Kennett included, I'm happy for

that. But right at the moment the Australian Government, which of

course makes the final decision on these matters, we think it's

quite a good and a well-balanced programme and a dramatic change next

year is simply not going to happen.

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