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Howard, John

Period of Service: 11/03/1996 - 03/12/2007
Release Date:
21/05/1998
Release Type:
Speech
Transcript ID:
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  • Howard, John Winston
TRANSCRIPT OF THE PRIME MINISTER THE HON JOHN HOWARD MP SPEECH TO THE NEW SOUTH WALES STATE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE SYDNEY

E&OE..........................................................................................................................

Thank you very much Katie. I suppose, some corners are a bit longer

than others as far as election dates are concerned. To Ian Armstrong,

the Leader of the New South Wales National Party, my Federal colleague,

Judi Moylan, the Minister for the Status of Women, other distinguished

guests, ladies and gentlemen.

Today is an opportunity for me to put into context some of the decisions

that my Government has taken over the two and a quarter years that

we have been in power. And it's very important whenever you look

back on what a Government has done to remember as well as what it

has done, what things might have been like if some of the things it

had done over that period of time had not been done. And that is particularly

important against the backdrop of what is now occurring in the Asia

Pacific region. It's not possible to say anything about Australia,

about Australia's economic future or Australia's political

future without a few words about the very momentous events in Indonesia

over the past few weeks.

The resignation yesterday of President Soeharto was in every sense

of the word a moment in the history of that country and also a moment

in the history of our entire region. Whatever has been said about

him - and a lot has been said critically, and what will be said in

the future - nothing can gainsay the fact that that brought great

stability and a lot of well measured economic progress to the people

of Indonesia. It is no mean feat to be the governor for 32 years of

a country of over 200 million people, the fourth largest nation on

earth, comprised of an archipelago of more than 3000 islands with

an enormous amount of religious and ethnic diversity. He did bring

to that country a great deal of measured improvements for the poor.

Certainly the democratic processes that we take for granted were not

there but equally, it's very important in our relations with

the countries of the world to understand that our philosophical approach,

as much as we revere it, can be very different from the approaches

of other countries.

We quite sensibly, in my view, gave up the cheap option of giving

kerbside public political advice to the people of Indonesia about

who should be their government and we won't be departing from

that practice in the future. There must be more openness, there must

be more personal liberty and there must be a continued growth of economic

freedom in Indonesia if bloodshed and civil strife is to be avoided

in the future. We regard Indonesia as a very important country to

Australia, not so much because of trade, because our bilateral trade

is only about 2.5 per cent, but geographic proximity, historical experiences,

the fact that Australia was one of only three countries in the world

that contributed to the IMF bailouts of Thailand, Indonesia and Korea

is a demonstration that Australia is part and parcel of the Asia Pacific

region forever, and also in relation to Indonesia that Australia is

a reliable and durable friend in times of difficulty.

When I became Prime Minister I said that one of the things I wanted

to do with Australia's foreign relations was to move away from

what I saw on occasions as being a rather obsessive Asia-only approach,

which was adopted on occasions by the former Government, to a broader

and more sensible Asia-first approach, recognising that Australia

also had very important economic, historical and political relationships

with the nations of Europe and the nations of North America because

it's long been my strong personal conviction that Australia occupies

a rather unique intersection of history, geography, culture and economic

circumstance. We have deep cultural roots with the nations of Europe.

We share the common commitment to personal liberty and democracy with

the nations of North America yet geographically, we are part of the

Asia Pacific region and we have been able, to our great benefit to

welcome into our nation many tens of thousands of people from the

nations of the Asia Pacific region and they have added a very rich

and important cultural dimension to the modern Australia and I think

it's very important in the projection of our foreign relations

that we remember that unique intersection that we occupy and I think

we have understood that every well in the events of the past few weeks.

We will work with the Government of Indonesia appointed by the people

of Indonesia and that applies irrespective of the identity of the

people who are members of that Government. So it's really against

a background of what is happening in the Asia Pacific region, not

only in Indonesia but throughout the entire region that you must really

see what my Government has done over the past two and a quarter years.

If there is one very clear message that comes out of that turbulence

and that is that Australia needs a government that will give it economic

security, economic stability and economic safety. We don't want

a government, we don't want a set of policies that will play

fast and loose with Australia's economic stability.

Now what has happened in the Asia Pacific region has really dramatically

strengthened the case for on-going economic reform in Australia. So

far from what is happening in those countries taking the pressure

off us to change and reform, what has happened in those countries

has really increased the tempo and the nature of that pressure. And

that is why we adopted the approach that we did when we came to power

in relation to a number of areas. And I frequently ask the rhetorical

question, where would Australia now be if we had not taken the measures

we did more than two years ago to reduce the budget deficit? Where

would Australia now be if we had brought down two weeks ago a budget

with a deficit of $5 - 10 billion? Where would Australia have been

if we had not undertaken the measures to reduce the very, very large

Federal Government debt that we faced in March of 1996. And all of

the adverse developments in our region have totally vindicated the

economic approach the Government has adopted, sometimes in the face

of fierce criticism and always in the face of political obstruction

from the Senate the measures that the Government has taken over the

past two and a quarter years. Because if we had taken a looser, more

permissive approach to economic management, if we had said: we will

let the budget deficit correct itself in a cyclical fashion, if we

had not undertaken some unpopular spending reductions which affected

different sections of the community, if we had adopted that looser,

more permissive attitude, you really have to scratch your head and

wonder what the rest of the world would now be thinking of the Australian

economy against the background of what has happened in the Asia Pacific

region. Because in the global economy of the late 1990s you can suffer

the penalties of geography, irrespective of the virtue of your own

domestic economic policies. What has happened in our part of the world

has made it all the more necessary that the sort of reform measures

that we have undertaken be undertaken.

What we have done by reducing the budget deficit and what we have

done by tackling the debt problem is to create in many respects in

Australia, which is seen as a safe, reliable, secure economic haven

in a very, very turbulent part of the world.

I don't want to weary you with statistics but let me just give

you one. In 1995, the total federal Government debt of Australia represented

about 20 per cent of our GDP, that is 20 per cent of our annual wealth

generation. On current projections, and factoring in the acquisition

of the remaining two thirds of Telstra by the men and women of Australia,

that figure by the year 2001 will be reduced to a bare 1.5 per cent

of our annual wealth generation, or 1.5 percent of our gross domestic

product. And we often talk as we look forward to the next millennium,

and we look forward to the 21st Century, we often talk about futures

and visions and legacies. I would hope that one of the great legacies

of my Government for the children, particularly of the next millennium,

will be a debt-free millennium and I can't think of a surer economic

foundation for the 21st Century than for the people of Australia to

believe that they can go into that century on the basis of this nation

being a relatively free-of-debt nation.

That's not a mere academic exercise because when you reduce debt

and when you get rid of deficits, you create more favourable circumstances

in a lot of areas. I had the opportunity the other night of attending

one of those great sporting functions that comes the way of a Prime

Minister. I am very proud of the fact that I am the patron of the

greatest rugby league club in the world, that's the St George

Rugby League Club, and I went out there for the testimonial dinner.

I didn't get many arguments when I said that last Tuesday night

saying I went out there for the testimonial dinner for Mark Coyne,

the Captain of St George. And during the course of the evening is

the great opportunity at gatherings like that to get some free advice,

and you always do. And one thing you can be certain of if you go to

a sporting event in Australia that you'll always get plenty of

free advice. It's always free, it's not always friendly,

but it's always free.

And in the course of the evening, quite a number of people spoke to

me about something that really is the direct consequence of what I've

been talking about and that is the sharply lower interest rates that

Australian homebuyers and Australian business are now enjoying. Now

I know that there are a lot of you in the audience today who would

say that they're still not low enough and I know that none of

you would want me to ever say to any banker I run into that interest

rates in Australia are low enough. But I think it is indisputable

that over the last couple of years we have seen the most significant

falls in the interest rate structure of this country that I can certainly

remember. And they're worth, when you are talking about buying

the average home, certainly in Sydney, and on a national average they

are worth a gain of about $300 a month for somebody paying off a home.

And what is good is that the competition in the banking industry,

the greater competition, has now resulted in those reductions flowing

through into the small business area and they have been particularly

sticky and particularly resistant to reductions over recent years.

Now that would not have happened if it hadn't been for our Budgets

in 1996, 1997 and 1998. Because when you reduce government debt, you

get the governments out of competition for monies in the financial

markets and you create the circumstances, or you help create the circumstances,

for lower interest rates all around. So again and again you have to

see what we have done against the background of making this a more

secure, stable and safe economy.

You must see reform to the Australian waterfront, which we are absolutely

determined to see through to the end because we believe it is in the

national interest. We are not on some kind of ideological binge in

trying to reform the Australian waterfront. We have no desire to destroy

unionism. We have no desire to destroy individual unions. It's

a cornerstone of our approach that every Australian should have the

right to join or not to join a trade union. It should be a matter

of personal, individual choice. And our goal on the waterfront has

not been to destroy the Maritime Union of Australia. Our goal on the

waterfront has been to give to the Australian nation, to the economy

of Australia, the sort of efficient, economic waterfront that exists

amongst our competitor nations. And many of you have heard over recent

weeks and months the comparisons about the performance of the Australian

waterfront and waterfronts around the world.

And that has been our goal, and the reason why we are committed to

it is that it's part of the exercise of making Australia a more

stable, secure and safe economy.

And it's made all the more necessary, not less necessary, by

what has been happening and the turbulence that's been occurring

in the Asia Pacific region. And it's really against that background

that we come to what I have described in the past as the greatest

piece of unfinished economic business in Australia and that is taxation

reform. I've now been in Federal Parliament for 24 years and

over that period of time I have seen major reform in many areas affecting

the Australian economy. I've seen the opening up of the Australian

economy through a very extensive dismantling of tariff barriers. I

have seen the dramatic transformation to greater openness of the Australian

financial system. I have seen tremendous changes in many other areas.

I have seen the extensive privatisation programme embraced on occasions

by both sides of politics but pursued very persistently by the Coalition

since the mid 1980s. I've seen, particularly under my Government,

and I am very proud of the achievements in this area, a change in

our approach to industrial relations, an overturning of the rather

cloistered, inward looking industrial relations system that we inherited

in 1996 to a more open system. And reforming the waterfront is an

individual projection of that industrial relations reform.

But there does remain one very big piece of unfinished economic business

and that is to reform Australia's taxation system. And this shouldn't

be seen as some kind of economic revolution. It shouldn't be

seen as something that involves turning conventional economic practice

on its head. What it should be seen as is the next logical, inevitable,

absolutely necessary step in the process of making Australia a more

secure, stable and reliable economy.

We can no longer afford an old fashioned inefficient taxation system.

And what is happening around us drives that point home all the more.

I mean it's going to be a harder world in which to compete so

therefore you should arm yourself with a modern, competitive taxation

system. It's got nothing to do with ideology. It's got an

enormous amount to do with competitive survival and it's also

got a great deal to do with fairness.

I've always believed that you can sell major reform to the Australian

people if you satisfy two criteria. First of all, you have to persuade

them that it's in Australia's interests because Australians,

despite their reluctance sometimes to be too overt about it, are deep

nationalists and deeply concerned about the welfare and the future

of their country. And if you can persuade them that it's a good

thing for Australia that we have a new taxation system, that's

half the battle. The other half of the battle is to persuade them

that the change is going to be fair to all Australians.

If I could deal with the first part of those criteria and that is

the national interest criteria and the case on national interest grounds

for a new modern taxation system is overwhelming. There's hardly

a credible commentator on taxation left who would argue seriously

against the need for reform. The wholesale tax system of Australia,

which is the principle vehicle through which indirect taxation is

raised in Australia, the wholesale tax system is outdated, outmoded,

and in every sense of the world, unfair and old fashioned. It is a

system which severely penalises Australian exporters. It is a system

which is lopsided in its treatment of different industry sectors.

It is a system of indirect taxation that has parallels in only a handful

of countries around the world and we wouldn't normally like to

compare ourselves economically with those nations. It was a system

that was introduced at a time when services bulked very small in the

Australian economy, and it was introduced at a time when the dynamics

of a global economy in which we now live were literally light years

away. And on every score it has to go and it has to be replaced, and

many other indirect taxes along with it, by new and a better, and

a different system.

If we really want to do well as exporters in the Asia-Pacific region

if we really want to nail down the gains that we have made over the

last few years, if we really want to permanently waterproof ourselves

against the turbulence of that region, we have to undertake taxation

reform. We've got to give ourselves a system that gives a competitive

edge with that part of the world. We can't, to use the example

that I frequently used, have a taxation system that is so lopsided

and indiscriminate, it taxes the family car at 22%, but taxes a Lear

jet at zero. Or taxes orange juice concentrate at 20% and taxes caviar

at zero.

And one could spend the whole afternoon giving examples of that sort

of lopsided treatment and of the disparate way in which different

industry sectors are treated. So the case for that reform on national

interest grounds is overwhelming and there comes a time in the political

and economic life of any country, and in the political life of individuals

on the political stage, where you really have to ask yourself, what

is the point of being in public life on either side of politics unless

you are prepared to embrace some kind of national interest concern.

I mean we have debated this taxation issue for years and years in

this country. I can remember it being debated when I was the Treasurer

in the Fraser Government. I can remember that when Mr Keating was

the Treasurer in the Labor Government he advocated reform and as the

Opposition spokesman on economic matters then, I supported him. And

I think Mr Beazley and Mr Evans also supported him very strongly.

I can remember it came back again in 1993 when John Hewson led the

Coalition. And it is now back on the agenda and back on the table.

In many respects, this is our last, best opportunity for half generation

to do something sensible about our taxation system and if we lose

that opportunity I think we're selling ourselves short. If we

lose the opportunity I think we're doing a lot of damage to Australia's

economic future and we aren't providing that big extra element

that is going to deliver the stability and the security and the safety

that we all know is necessary and we have all been reminded is necessary

as a result of the turbulence which has occurred in our part of the

world.

It is often said, fairly or unfairly I never quite know, that Australia

is the lucky country. And we are lucky that we have been able to survive

some of the worst effects of what's occurred in our region. But

it's also said that you've got to make your own luck and

the fact that we have been able to survive some of that impact is

a direct result of many of the measures the Government has taken.

But we can't rest on what we so far achieved. We've got

to embrace the next necessary element of reform. And the next necessary

element of economic reform is, of course, reforming Australia's

taxation system and that is why we remain very, very strongly committed

to it. And there are a host of reasons, of course, you are all aware

of, other reasons why we need a new and better taxation system.

It is quite ludicrous that 30 to 40 years ago you didn't pay

the top marginal rate of tax unless you earned something like 16 to

17 times average weekly earnings. There aren't all that many

people in Australia in that situation and there weren't then.

Now you pay the top marginal rate if you hit one-and-three-quarter

times average weekly earnings. And in the early years of the next

century, if we don't make any change, that is going to be an

even lower proportion.

Now that is a plainly ludicrous personal taxation system. And it does

need change. I don't pretend that you can wave a magic wand and

get rid of all the problems of the taxation system by reform. But

I do believe that if you identify a national economic need to change

something and you make a compelling case, than I believe that it will

be embraced by the Australian community.

And it can be done in a way that is fair to low income earners. And

I want to repeat an undertaking I gave a couple of weeks ago, and

that is that there is no way that we are going to change the taxation

system to hurt the poor in Australia. I do believe that Governments

and the rest of the community have social obligations to those in

the community who are less fortunate than the rest of us. Those social

obligations have to be delivered in a targeted way, they have to be

delivered in a sympathetic way and they have to be delivered in a

efficient way, but they must, nonetheless, be delivered. And part

of that process is to have a taxation system and a taxation reform

that takes proper care of the less well-off in the community. And

it can be done. The idea that there's something immutably fair

about the present system which can't be delivered in some other

system is absolutely illogical. Of course you can have fairness in

any system if you build in safeguards and you build in protection

for the less well off and we certainly intend to do that.

So ladies and gentlemen, as you may have gathered, I remain rather

committed to the cause of taxation reform. Not once again because

it's some kind of ideological beacon not because I want to win

some kind of ideological argument, but because with all the sincerity

and conviction I can muster I believe it is important for the welfare

of my country, particularly against the background of the economic

and political turbulence of our region, that we do everything we possibly

can to make this a more secure, stable and safe society economically

as well as socially. And the only way you can do that is to tackle

obvious problems. Governments are elected to govern, they are elected

to lead, they are elected to deal with problems. And when I became

Prime Minister in March of 1996 I identified a number of problems

with the Australian economy. I identified a big budget problem. I

identified the need for changing our industrial relations system.

I identified the need for the Government to get out of those business

undertakings that are not properly the business of Government. And

I also identified the need to have a more balanced approach to environment

concerns and development. And I also identified the need in our foreign

relations to bring about more balance in relation to the various regional

interests that we had.

And one by one we have tackled those problems and they've been

tackled against the backdrop of what was then unexpected turbulence

in our part of the region - in our part of the world. And what that

unexpected turbulence has done is to reinforce the need, the urgency,

the necessity to undertake fundamental reform to make us a stronger,

safer community. And that's why we did what we did in relation

to the Budget. That's why we had to take some decisions that

some people, including some in the business community, I guess some

people in this gathering didn't like in the 1996 Budget. And

we have offended, in the process, different sections of Australian

society but those decisions were taken out of concern for the mainstream

Australian national interest. And that's why we fixed the Budget.

That's why we are trying to reform the waterfront. And lastly

and most importantly, it is why we are so committed to the cause of

changing the Australian taxation system.

Can I finally say to you, ladies and gentlemen, that I have greatly

appreciated, and my Government has greatly appreciated, the links

that it has developed with the business community of Australia. I

came into office with a very strong personal commitment to the cause

of small business. I've had that commitment all of my life. I

guess it's something to do with the fact that I grew up ve

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