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Transcripts from the Prime Ministers of Australia

Howard, John

Period of Service: 11/03/1996 - 03/12/2007
Release Date:
17/06/1998
Release Type:
Speech
Transcript ID:
10918
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  • Howard, John Winston
TRANSCRIPT OF THE PRIME MINISTER THE HON. JOHN HOWARD MP ADDRESS TO THE ASTON ELECTORATE DINNER WANTIRNA, MELBOURNE

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Well thank you very much Peter, to your wife Carol, to my Federal

Parliamentary colleagues, Senator Synon, to John Richardson and

my other State Parliamentary colleagues, ladies and gentlemen.

There seems, at the moment in politics, to be a little bit of discussion

about nostalgia and about going back, and I have to say that no

one group in Australian politics, of course, has a mortgage on nostalgia

and being warmly reminded of one's roots. And I don't

think in a political sense there's anything quite so warmly

nostalgic about coming to a Liberal Party function in Victoria and

being introduced behind a pipe band given the great Scottish affections

and ancestry of the founder of our Party and the longest serving

Prime Minister in Australia's history, Sir Robert Menzies.

I am very happy to be back in the electorate of Aston, Peter, and

I will, of course, never return in any of my former guises to this

electorate having visited it on three occasions in different guises.

And you are absolutely right and you show an appropriate degree

of political emphasis and political skill in mentioning the fact

that this electorate does have the largest number of mortgage-ors

in Australia on a per capita basis. And I will complete that by

saying, of course, that the message for them is that my Government

has delivered the lowest housing interest rates for 30 years and

that's a message that will be repeated during the course of

the next few weeks, the next few months and indeed until some date

between now and when the election is due, which constitutionally

of course is about late May of next year, that's the latest

date. Now, I'm not, for the benefit of the press who are travelling

with me or indeed, and I don't mean this unkindly for anybody

else's benefit about to muse aloud about when the election

might be held. That is something that all Prime Ministers decide

at the right time and in the right circumstances after talking to

their senior colleagues. But I do want to share with you a few thoughts

about where Australia has some from and where we are going and some

of the political challenges on the horizon at the present time.

We've had in Melbourne over the last few days a very important

conference dealing with Australia's trade relationships with

the rest of the world. We've had a number of very well reported

speeches, one or two of them from some of our visitors, I think,

have been unduly pessimistic. I don't believe it is often particularly

helpful for some visitors to this country to use words like ‘depression'

and to throw them around rather carelessly particularly given some

of the economic difficulties of our friends in the Asia-Pacific

region. But there is little doubt that the Asia-Pacific region is

going through its worst economic experience in the last 30 or 40

years. But it's also very important to keep the circumstances

of what is happening in the Asia-Pacific region in a very clear

perspective.

And let me illustrate by referring to a country like Indonesia.

Everyone knows that Indonesia's gone through a very difficult

time and there are many difficult months ahead for that country.

It has not only gone through difficult times economically but also

politically and there's been a change of leadership from President

Soeharto to the new President Dr Habibie. But even when you take

all that into account, the living standards of Indonesian people,

despite all of the downturn and all of the meltdown and all of the

loss of wealth, the living standards of the Indonesian people now

are dramatically higher than what they were at the beginning of

the 1990s.

So therefore what we have to do is to keep in perspective what

is occurring in our part of the world. The other thing that we should

remember, of course, is how Australia is effected by what is happening

in our region. Now it is quite impossible for Australia not to be

effected by what is occurring in our region. We now sell 34 per

cent of all of our exports to two countries alone - that's

Japan and Korea. Those two countries are far and away our most important

destinations for the goods that we sell abroad and inevitably because

of those linkages and linkages with other parts of the Asian region

we are going to be effected by a downturn in those countries. But

the reality is that we have not been effected nearly as badly as

we might have been and the reason for that, quite unmistakably,

is that when our Government took office we set about getting Australia's

economic house in order, and I am defiantly proud of what my Government

has done over the past two-and-a-quarter years. Peter Costello as

Treasurer supported by all of the other Ministers having responsibility

for economic management has done an absolutely superb job in turning

around Australia's finances.

Now, I know that there are some of the decisions that we have taken

that some in the community haven't liked, and I am sure there

are a number of people here tonight who personally haven't

liked some of the decisions that we have taken. I know that, I have

been in politics a very long time and I know that occasionally you

take decisions that adversely affect people who are even your loyalist

supporters. I know that, I am conscious of that. I know that some

of the decisions we took in relation to such issues as superannuation

a couple of years ago caused a deal of heartburning amongst some

of our own supporters. I also know that some of the decisions we

took in other areas affected people who were not necessarily our

supporters.

But that is not the point of who somebody affected by a decision

supports, it's a question of what the end product of all of

those decisions are, and the end product of all of the decisions

we have taken is that we have turned a Budget deficit of $10.5 billion

a year into a surplus of $2.7 billion. We have produced the lowest

interest rates in 30 years. We have the prospect of starting the

21st Century with virtually no Federal Government debt and when

you consider that in 1995 the Federal Government debt, the GDP ratio,

was about 20 per cent, that is a remarkable turnaround. We have

the lowest inflation rate in the OECD area and we have in prospect,

despite the difficulties of our region, some of the highest growth

rates amongst the industrialised countries for 1998 and 1999.

Now the net result of all of that is that we have given to the

Australian economy a degree of protection from what has happened

in Asia that would simply not have been there if we had not been

elected and would not have been there if we had listened to the

advice we received from our opponents in the Labor Party and the

Australian Democrats. Because one of the galling things about the

Labor Opposition is that not only did they create the problem we

were given the responsibility of fixing up, but at every step of

the way they have tried to prevent us fixing the problem. It's

one thing to create a difficulty and then hand it over to somebody

else and say: we'll give you two or three years to fix it up.

It's entirely another thing to create the problem, hand it

over to somebody else and go about trying to stop the other crowd

fixing the problem in the time that they are in Government. Because

all of the attempts virtually we made to reduce the budget deficit

and to get our economic house in order were obstructed by the Australian

Labor Party and others in the Senate. We were able, through a combination

of circumstances, to get most of those budget measures through.

But it oughtn't to be forgotten now that Australia faces this

great economic difficulty in Asia that not only did my Government,

the Coalition Government, set about building the strongest economic

foundations that Australia has had in 25 years but we did it in

the face of the strongest possible opposition from our opponents.

The truth is that if we hadn't have done what we have done

over the last two-and-a- quarter years Australia now would be weaker,

more vulnerable, more exposed, our living standards more at risk

and overseas confidence in the strength of the Australian economy

greatly reduced. So what we have done over that period of time has

been to build those very strong foundations and the reality is,

my friends, that there are more things that must be done. I know

that there are many in the community who are somewhat weary with

economic and social change. I understand that. Peter mentioned a

moment ago what happened in Queensland last weekend.

Most of what happened in Queensland last weekend, not all of it,

but most of it is due to the fact there are Australians who feel

a sense of vulnerability because of the economic and social change

that has occurred in our nation over the last few years. I understand

that. I sympathise with, and I regard the great bulk of those people

who feel that way as like the rest of us - ordinary decent Australians

who are concerned about their future and the future of their families.

But of course there are ways of securing your future, that will

secure your future. There are other ways which I'll come to

in a moment which in fact will make your future even more vulnerable

and even more precarious. But in the globalised world in which we

now live, and we have no option, we're all part of it. You

can't in the words of the old song "stop the world because

I want to get off". That's not an option. No country can

do that.

If we start being offensive to foreign investors they'll take

their investments somewhere else, and for good measure the jobs

in Australia that they would have created with that investment will

follow to the other destination. This idea that you can be rude

to foreign investors and say we don't want you but still keep

the jobs that foreign investment creates, is of course completely

mythical. I know that Australians worry when on occasions some of

our great brand names like Arnott's Biscuits, and Bundaberg

Sugar disappear and are bought by people overseas. I understand

that. But I also understand that those things result from decisions

made by Australian shareholders to sell their shares to overseas

investors. I also know that this country would have a lower living

standard and there would be fewer jobs for Australians if we had

not accepted investment from foreign companies.

I met a gentleman earlier this evening, forgive me Sir, I just

can't immediately recall your name, but you run the McDonald's

franchise in this area. Everybody else knows you. That man's

company, or that man's franchise company, employs 55,000 Australians.

Now that's a foreign company. If we hadn't been beckoning

to foreign investment, that's 55,000 Australians that wouldn't

have been employed. Everyone knows we would never have had a motor

manufacturing industry in this country if we hadn't way back

in the late 1940's accepted investment from General Motors.

And everyone knows that there are many other industries in this

country that simply wouldn't be here if it hadn't been

for foreign investment and every economy in the world worth its

salt at some period of its economic history has accepted investment

from abroad.

In the late 1890's most of the railroads and much of the major

investment in the United States was British and there've been

long periods in American history where foreign investment from Japan

and Britain and from other parts of the world, has bulked very large

in the economy of the most, the largest and most powerful economy

in the world. Now, of course you need rules that ensure that if

Australian equity is available it gets a fair crack of the whip.

I can remember when I was Treasurer in the late 1970's. I had

some fairly vigorous arguments with the then Queensland Government

when I insisted that there should be Australian equity in some of

the major coal mining developments in Queensland and I'm glad

I did because it ensured that Australia had a stake. But the point

ladies and gentleman is that we have a choice as a nation. We don't

have enough domestic savings of our own to do everything that we

want to do. Now if we want to continue growing our living standards,

if we want to continue to have more investment that employs more

Australians, then unless we save more as a community, and there's

no sign that we're going to change our habits dramatically

enough overnight for that to occur, then if we want those extra

jobs and that higher standard of living, we've got to draw

on the savings of foreigners and accept large amounts of foreign

investment in this country. You don't have the option of keeping

the living standards and not having the foreign investment. You

want the living standards, given our savings level, you've

got to take the foreign investment. Now I've gone on perhaps

for a few moments about that issue because it's in the news

at the moment.

We not only have before us at the present time in Australia, we

not only have on offer the failed debt and deficit policies of the

Australian Labor Party, but we now have on offer the rather unworkable,

impractical, utterly out of touch economic policies of the One Nation

Party. We had their national director the other day saying you could

have bank loans at 2%. I thought to myself that's an interesting

proposition. Who are the Australians lining up to lend the bank

their money at 1.5%. I wandered around, I stopped few people in

the street and I said would you lend at 1.5%, and they said no.

And then I heard on the radio that the national director was saying,

you don't, that's not the point. What you do is you print

the money. I don't think I've heard anybody for a decade

or more, twenty years, who regards himself or herself as a serious

player in Australia politics suggest that the answer to any economic

problem is to print money. Everyone in this audience knows that

such a policy would be fundamentally disastrous. That it would push

inflation through the roof and most seriously of all, it would destroy

the savings of retired people in our community. And it's very

interesting that some of the appeal of this party is directed to

older Australians. The clarion call of nostalgia of returning to

a past that did have some desirable features, but nonetheless is

the past, but that particular policy would do enormous damage to

retired people. It would do enormous damage to any Australians who

have saved.

But what I'm saying to you ladies and gentleman, and I think

you may have got my drift, that in these times of economic challenge

from abroad, it is no time to turn back to a party that gave us

deficit and debt. When Peter Costello became Treasurer, he found

that over a period of eight or nine years alone the former Government

had run up a Federal Government debt of about $95 billion. And it

was running at the rate of about $10 billion a year and we have

of course turned that around. So it's not a time to go back

to those sort of failed policies. Nor is it a time to experiment

with risky, faulty, out-of- touch, unreal, simplistic economic solutions.

Nor is it a time to sound unwelcoming to foreign investment because

if you don't welcome foreign investment in the globalised world

economy you chase jobs out of Australia and that is undeniably the

economic choices that face our country. But the other thing you

must do also is to continue to make further changes that are needed

to strengthen Australia. And that of course brings me to the issue

of taxation reform.

Australia, as anybody who cares about the future of our country,

as anybody who's thought about it knows, Australia cannot go

on forever with its present taxation system. Now I know that there

are people who are saying you don't talk about taxation before

an election, whenever that election may be held. You do something

about it afterwards. You go to the election and you say, well, we'll

have a meeting about taxation. Mr Hawke did that way back in 1984.

He had a meeting and now 14 years later, 13 years after the meeting

and 14 years after he promised the meeting, we still haven't

got a reformed taxation system. It's still ramshackle and out

of touch and yet some people say to me, John, have a meeting. Budget,

have a meeting. I can't do that. I've spoken so often

and Peter Costello has spoken so often of the need for tax reform

in this country. It's simply not credible for us to now turn

around and say, no we don't need that any more. We'll

have a meeting and we'll see if we can muddle through. There's

no chance on Earth that at a meeting you could get a consensus.

You'd get everybody in. You'd get the Liberal Party in,

the National Party in, the Labor Party, everybody else, the welfare

groups, the business community, the trade unions, you'd have

a talk and at the end of the day everybody would have their own

view. And you know what the commentators would say? It's now

up to the Government to make a decision. And that's fair enough.

That's what Governments are elected to do. They're elected

to make decisions into proposed policy description. Now I don't

think ladies and gentleman, if we want taxation reform in this country,

there is really no alternative other than to lay it out before the

election which we intend to do and to campaign on it and to ask

the Australian people to support it because it's good for Australia.

Not because we have some ideological zeal about tax reform, it's

because I believe in all my being and based on all the years I've

been in politics that the next logical step that's needed to

further strengthen the Australia economy is to reform the Australian

taxation system. That's why I'm in favour of it. And what's

more I know that Mr Beazley knows deep down that we ought to reform

the tax system too because back in the mid 1980's when Mr Keating

was trying to change the tax system, Mr Beazley and Mr Evans were

his two strongest supporters. And most people who've studied

the tax system know this. And even the people who are trying to

say to me. well look don't do it now, they say to me in the

next breath, we know it's got to be done but do it later, do

it some other time. But there comes a point when you can't

kid to the public about something like that. There comes a point

when you have to be absolutely direct about it. Now we do need a

new system. We're not going to bring in a goods and services

tax on top of the existing taxes. People run around, they hold up

these placards saying no GST. I mean they're very interesting.

Well of course I agree with them if you're talking about putting

a GST on top of the existing system. That would be crazy, it would

be unfair, and it would be unthinkable. It's always been the

case that if you look at a GST you are looking at it to replace

existing indirect taxes and you're also looking at accompanying

it with the introduction of personal income tax cuts. And you're

also looking at addressing the difficulties of the Commonwealth-State

financial relationship that cause the occasional exchange over the

airways between Commonwealth and State Government. And your also

looking at making certain that there is protection for the low income

in Australia. I mean these are the principles that I laid down.

I mean of course I'm not going to bring in a GST on its own

or whatever you want to call it. Of course I'm not going to

do that. It's never been in contemplation. But we do have a

system that's breaking down. I frequently say do you want to

go on with a system that allows the ten people in this audience

who can afford to buy a lear jet, or is it five, or is it twenty,

I don't know, maybe it's none, to buy it without paying

any sales tax at all. But the rest of us who buy a family car have

got to pay a wholesale sales tax of 22%. Do we want a tax system

that says that you pay a sales tax on flavoured milk and many household

utensils, but you don't pay any on caviar. You pay it on orange

juice concentrate but you don't pay it on other things. And

I could spend the whole night regaling you with a list of anomaly

of the wholesale tax system that was developed at a time when the

overwhelming bulk of economic activity in Australia was manufacturing

and the creating of goods and there was no service industry. Of

course we need a system, a new system and we need something that

gives more coherence and fairness and balance. And we certainly

need a system that helps our exporters. One of the great advantages

of a goods and services tax, or a value added tax, or broad based

indirect tax or whatever name you call it, is that it doesn't

impact on exports and that will make our exports more competitive.

And that is why most other countries, most of the countries with

which we trade have that taxation system. Why on Earth we continue

to burden our exporters with the old fashioned system that we have

is beyond my understanding. And they're the sort of issues

that our political opponents, whether in the Labor Party or One

Nation or whatever, have got to confront. I mean are Mr Beazley

and Mrs Hanson that the present system is perfect and they don't

want it changed? Are they really saying that after all the years

of study we don't need a new tax system and heaven knows the

tax system's been understudied for all the time I've been

in politics. I entered Parliament in 1974 and a year before I came

in, the late Billy Sneddon commissioned the Asprey Committee to

inquire into the Australian taxation system. And do you know what

it recommended. It recommended the introduction of a broad based

indirect tax to replace the wholesale sales tax. And it said that

marginal rates of income tax were further incentive, and it said

there need to be reform. And that report was delivered to the Whitlam

Government in 1975 which wasn't a good year for the Whitlam

Government, and of course there wasn't much done about it.

And then various attempts have been made ever since to reform the

Australian taxation system but nothing serious has happened. And

that is why I heard this morning on the radio as I was driving from

one electorate to the other here in Melbourne, I visited quite a

few today, I heard a report from the Institute of Chartered Accountants

in which they said that, that under the present taxation system,

a family earning $20,000 a year with two children and one bread

winner, that that particular family is relatively better off under

the taxation system than a family earning $30,000. In other words

the family earning $30,000 a year with the same structure, is in

fact $9 a week worse off after taxation. Now that's just one

example of how animalist the present taxation system is. And that

really does have to be addressed.

There are just two other things I want to say to you. And that

is that it is very important to different parts of Australia that

we do get the problem of native title resolved. This has been a

very difficult issue for Australia, and it has been a very difficult

issue for Australia because much of the debate has been exaggerated

and much of the debate has been the subject of emotional exchanges.

The bill that we have put forward, despite what has been said about

it, respects all of the basic principles of the original decision

of the High Court of Australia in the Mabo case. The bill that we

have put forward is already a compromise. The bill that we have

put forward does not meet all of the aspirations of people who believe

that when the original Native Title Act was passed in 1993, that

the grant of a pastoral lease completely extinguish Native Title,

and there are many people who said after 1996 when the High Court

brought down its decision in the Wik, that all you had to do was

to overturn that decision and go back to what the belief had been

in 1993. And we decided in the interests of trying

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