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Howard, John

Period of Service: 11/03/1996 - 03/12/2007
Release Date:
03/08/1998
Release Type:
Interview
Transcript ID:
10771
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  • Howard, John Winston
3 August 1998 TRANSCRIPT OF THE PRIME MINISTER THE HON JOHN HOWARD MP JOINT PRESS CONFERENCE WITH THE PRIME MINISTER OF PAPUA NEW GUINEA

E&OE.............................................................................................

Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. The Prime Minister and I have

had almost an hour of very valuable talks and they will continue over

lunch.

The relationship between our two countries is close. It is built very

directly on people-to-people links. We have a lot of shared history.

And I've found the talk today with the Prime Minister to be extremely

positive and, as a result, the relationship between the two countries

has been further strengthened.

He naturally briefed me, the Prime Minister, on the circumstances

in his country following the tragic events of the Tsunami. And I will

have an opportunity at lunch to express to him, and also fortuitously,

because many of them will be there, to the Australian defence personnel

the way in which that tragedy affected the Australian people and the

way in which we were very pleased, in the tragic circumstances, to

respond in such an emphatic way. The spontaneous response of the Australian

community was evidence of the affection which is held in this country

for the people of Papua New Guinea.

I want to announce that apart from the relief activity which is already

being provided, about which I'll have something more to say in

my remarks at lunchtime, Australia will provide further assistance

for rehabilitation work. We will provide whatever extra is needed

to ensure two or three new schools, some facilities that are more

accessible for people who've been disabled as a result of the

tragedy, medical support for those with orthopedic injuries and amputations,

agriculture and fisheries programmes to rebuild the local economy,

assistance to churches and non-government organisations working on

rebuilding in new areas, upgrading and repairs to roads, support for

earthquake monitoring and geological survey work, advice to provincial

and district administration on planning, and assistance to Papua New

Guinea with disaster planning. And some of the aid programmes that

are already in operation will provide some relevant assistance. We'll

also provide some funding additional to the aid programme. That amount

will depend on needs and the funds already provided by Papua New Guinea

and other donors, but we envisage a sum of, in the order of, a million

dollars. Australia has already spent $2 million additional to the

aid programme on relief, not counting, of course, the contribution

of the Australian Defence Force.

On other matters, we were pleased a few moments ago to witness the

signing of the Memorandum of Understanding regarding the gas pipeline.

And that represents, if it comes to fruition, a total investment of

$3.1 billion and that will generate a large number of jobs in both

countries.

Both of us shared experiences in relation to the impact of the Asian

downturn on our two economies. I want to take this opportunity, as

I will at lunch, of congratulating Mr Skate for the role that he and

his government have played in bringing the possibility of a lasting

settlement in Bougainville closer to fruition. Bougainville has been

a source of concern to successive governments, both in Australia and

Papua New Guinea and the role that Mr Skate has played and, I might

also remark, the role that has been played by Australia's Foreign

Minister, Mr Alexander Downer, have played a very, very significant

part in giving us more hope in that area. We also re-emphasised and

agreed upon the importance of the defence cooperation between the

Australian Defence Force and the defence forces of Papua New Guinea.

On behalf of the Australian Government it's been a very positive

and very productive session. And I'm delighted this is Mr Skate's

first visit, not only to Canberra as Prime Minister but also his first

visit to Canberra, and I'm very happy to have him with me and

to re-affirm, as I will at lunch time, the very close and intimate

links between our two countries and our two societies.

PRIME MINISTER SKATE:

Firstly, Mr Prime Minister, I want to thank you, on behalf of the

people of Papua New Guinea, for inviting me to be here in Canberra.

And, secondly, is to thank all the Australians, the people of Australia,

for what they have done in assisting us in terms of the disaster that

we had faced in Aitape and, of course, over the periods when we had

problems in Bougainville and Rabaul, how the Australians were willing

to help.

It goes to show that the people of Australia do care about the people

of Papua New Guinea. It also shows that they have friends on the other

side, and that we valued, and it also reassures us that we have friends

and brothers on this part of the country, in this region. Secondly,

our objective to come over here is in two-fold. One is to establish

contact and promote understanding with Australian leadership. And

secondly is to reach an understanding on key issues affecting Papua

New Guinea in which Australia has an important role to play in Papua

New Guinea. And as the Prime Minister John Howard has rightly said,

there are four issues that we have touched on – defence cooperation,

investment, trade and bilateral strength and our bilateral and multi-lateral

relationship. I am also pleased to note that the Prime Minister and

his Government and, of course, with the support of the Australian

people are willing to stand behind Papua New Guinea and show that

Papua New Guinea progress positively and becomes a prosperous country

to live in.

In terms of Bougainville, I think we are making headway. We have a

long way to go but I thank the Australians for the role they have

played in terms of peace monitoring group. . We have asked Australians

to support us to ensure that the United Nation, when it takes part

as an observer on the Island, recognises the sovereignty of Papua

New Guinea. And the Australian Prime Minister has given us that assurance

and respected that request. I also want to thank the Prime Minister

for the understanding he has with the currency crisis that Papua New

Guinea is facing. We have tried within our means to live within our

means. We are able to control our budget without much help from the

World Bank and the IMF but I am pleased to inform the people of Australia

that the World Bank has taken note of our performance in the last

12 months that I have been Prime Minister and they are very satisfied

as to how we have been able to control our budget.

On the Aitape, I have been down there. After 24 hours the Australian

supply arrived. I saw children, women, people dead but it's an

experience that I will never forget and that has made me much stronger

to look after my people and care for my people. I thank the Australians

for the supply and the swift way they moved in to assist and bring

normalcy on the devastated island. It was wonderful to know that Australians

flew in quickly, they were the first to land there, followed by New

Zealand and Japan. I want to thank the people of Australia and Prime

Minister yourself and your Government for that assistance.

The latest tally we have today is about 2,134 people are dead. There

are 9,483 in the care centres; 628 in the hospitals and they are still

searching for more dead bodies but we have, in fact, instructed people

not to move into devastated areas because it is contaminated and it

will be too dangerous for people to be living around there. Having

that Mr Prime Minister, when I make my speech I think the people of

Australia will have an opportunity to know who Bill Skate is and what

he stands for and where he comes from. And with the support of the

Australian brothers and sisters throughout Australia, I want to say

thank you very much for having me in your wonderful country. And I

hope Mr Prime Minister it is only fair in a Melanesian custom that

you should come down to my country and I will reciprocate the hospitality

that you have accorded me. Thank you very much.

JOURNALIST:

Prime Minister Howard, regarding the Australian aid, will that be

given through aid agencies that are already there and church groups

or will some of that money go through the central fund that the Papua

New Guinean governments.....

PRIME MINISTER HOWARD:

Well the design is that we would pay directly for those particular

projects. We think that is the most intelligent way of doing it. The

central fund has actually been quite successful, the response to that

has been tremendous and we just think the most beneficial, practical

way is to itemize some projects and pay for them directly.

JOURNALIST:

Prime Minister Skate, if I could ask you, what guarantees are there

that any donations of money that are coming from Australian people

will go to the source i.e. will go to helping those people?

PRIME MINISTER SKATE:

I have set up a committee and the committee is not made up of politicians

except me as the Chairman and patron. The funds will go into an account,

we'll open up a special account, and it's going to be managed

and audited by a company called Deloittes Chartered Accountants. We

have a bishop, a Catholic Bishop, Bishop Brian Barnes in the committee.

We have a bloke by the name of [inaudible] Bernhard Chulai representing

the international donors, and NGO representative, Janet Philoman.

That makes up the committee. I am not the signatory to the cheque,

it is the NGO or international donors, one of the representatives,

the Catholic Church and, of course, the Chairman of National Disaster.

Therefore, with Deloittes as chartered accountants, it's very

transparent, accountable and I think it will be put in the right place

for projects that will benefit the people of Papua New Guinea.

JOURNALIST:

Despite that, though, there are accusations though that you are siphoning

off some of that money. At least one provincial governor has said

it's a racket and a conspiracy and that you are trying to take

that money, what do you say to that?

PRIME MINISTER SKATE:

We have a very strong law, much, much better than, I think, some of

the laws in Australia. We have an ombudsman commissioned to investigate

leaders if they have bridged any law. We have a fraud squad and our

laws...if you are found once, under section 14 of the Leadership

Code, you don't hold public office. In politics, people accuse

leaders because they want to make noise, but they should investigate

the report substantiated before they report. I think character assassination

has truly destroyed my country and a lot of my leaders. I have no

time for leaders who speak like that because they have ulterior motives,

I don't.

JOURNALIST:

Prime Minister Skate, can I ask you, in relation to the recent sex

videos that have been an issue in front of your Parliament, Father

Lak was named as being involved in that, can you update us on what's

happening in your country about that issue?

PRIME MINISTER SKATE:

We have appropriate laws and those who complain should go and see

our institutions that should look into it. It is not for me to be

judging a person.

JOURNALIST:

What are you doing about it, are you going to have a full inquiry

into the allegations?

PRIME MINISTER SKATE:

The people have been told on the floor of parliament to refer that

matter to the Ombudsman Commission and appropriate authorities, it

is their job. I have a bigger problem, my problem is to manage my

country's affairs, run the economy properly and show that my

people are receiving the goods and services that has been denied for

a long, long time.

JOURNALIST:

But the allegations of nine million kina being involved in a bribe

over that incident, isn't that something that you should investigate?

PRIME MINISTER SKATE:

If you are to go to the bank and ask them about nine million kina,

there's been no nine million kina bribe. It is again politics

at its best, accusing leaders because we are making a difference in

this country. I am making a difference, that's why people are

worried.

JOURNALIST:

What about Father Lak, do you have confidence in him, do you deny

he's involved?

PRIME MINISTER SKATE:

I have a lot of confidence, I have a lot of confidence in the man.

I have a lot of confidence as one great Papuan New Guinean leader

and his name has been tarnished and I will stand by him until the

law finds him guilty.

JOURNALIST:

Do you deny that he was involved in this incident?

PRIME MINISTER SKATE:

I deny it totally because I've seen the tape, it's not very

clear.

JOURNALIST:

...deny those allegations.

PRIME MINISTER SKATE:

Well, they use parliament privileges. Why can't they use it outside

so he can take them to court? The man's not been given a fair

chance.

JOURNALIST:

In the wake of the Tsunami, nurses and medical staff are obviously

willing to volunteer to go to the area and help with the people up

there. They're saying that they're being told to pay their

own way, that they can't get there unless they pay their own

way. Will you release some money from that central fund so that medical

staff can go and help the injured?

PRIME MINISTER SKATE:

Of course, that's the reason why we are setting up this account.

JOURNALIST:

When will that happen, though?

PRIME MINISTER SKATE:

Well, we're receiving the money. I mean, to-date, we have 1.1

million kina in the account...

JOURNALIST:

[Inaudible]... assistance.

PRIME MINISTER SKATE:

Yeah but, look, people are sending us money. You know, it's only

seven days I start launching this and we have to have the accountants

who is managing the fund, not Bill Skate. I have accountants, it's

their job. I just call for...

JOURNALIST:

Will you tell them to release the money so these medical staff can

go...?

PRIME MINISTER SKATE:

Of course I will. I will. In fact, I have spoken to them, before I

left. And we have to do it properly. You don't release a fund

because a man says I want a fund. You have to prepare documents, have

it, you know, checked – is it true, is it what they really want

or is it another request, a hand-out request. We want to check everything.

I'm an accountant by profession, therefore I want to see everything

done properly.

JOURNALIST:

How soon can the gas pipeline be built if this Memorandum of Understanding

comes off, if you get the agreement that you need?

PRIME MINISTER SKATE:

Well, it depends very much on Prime Minister Howard and his Government

and the people of Australia and those investors. I think it's

two countries, in fact, three governments, that's the Federal

Government, the Papua New Guinean Government and, of course, the Queensland

State Government and the investors. We have to have a look at it.

If my Minister for Petroleum and Gas, Sir Rabbie Namaliu, the former

Prime Minister, moves faster, I think we can get it going. And, you

know, if you question my credibility, I mean, one has to look at Sir

Rabbie Namaliu, the man with an impeccable reputation, you know, internationally,

and he's in my government and he's assisting me, therefore,

something must be wrong with other people - Bill Skate's okay.

JOURNALIST:

Prime Minister Howard, you were talking about goods and services before.

Your backbench seems to be worried about the prospect of trying to

sell a goods and services tax in Australia. Are you going to be able

to address their concerns?

PRIME MINISTER:

Well, we won't be selling a goods and services tax. We'll

be explaining a taxation reform plan which embraces a fundamental

reform of the whole Australian taxation system. I'll be notifying

my colleagues later today that there will be a joint party meeting

here in Canberra next Wednesday the 12th of August and

at that joint party meeting the colleagues will be asked to approve

the plan that has been developed. And I feel very confident that when

that plan is explained they will have considerable enthusiasm in promoting

it because it is and will be seen by the Australian public as a very

good plan, a plan for the 21st Century. We believe in reforming

the Australian taxation system, unlike our opponents who want to cling

to the existing wholesale tax system, so that if they happen to win

the next election they could do what they did in 1993 and increase

all the existing wholesale tax rates by two or three per cent, having

promised personal tax cuts. I mean, they are shaping up to do the

same thing this time as they did last time and that is to promise

tax cuts, don't deliver them, but put up the existing indirect

taxes.

JOURNALIST:

Is it conceivable that the party room may want to tinker with your

package?

PRIME MINISTER:

Well, we don't take anything for granted. We are going through

a process of genuine consultation. I don't take the partyroom

for granted but I feel very confident that when the plan is presented

the plan will appeal very warmly and very strongly and naturally it

takes a little time to get it all together. This is like a budget.

In fact in some respects it is bigger than a budget because it is

bringing about a very significant change in our taxation system, therefore

you do need a lead time between the taking of final decisions at an

executive government level and the final presentation of the document

for approval, and you have to have consultation and discussion along

the way. There seems to be Paul, a curious notion around that we are

sort of holding it back for some particular reason. We are not. I'd

be very happy if I were in a position to release it tomorrow, take

it to a party room meeting and release it tomorrow but I can't

because there are calculations to be done, there are documents to

be prepared, there are references to be cross-checked because it is

a plan, it is not just a policy, it is a plan for significant change

to Australia's taxation system.

I'm sorry Bill, that I went on at such length about something

which is of such great interest to the Australian press. I apologise

for that. Yes, Stephen?

JOURNALIST:

How long after that do you think it could be before you could make

the ....?

PRIME MINISTER:

Well, if it is approved, and that's if it is approved, we would

hope to release it immediately. If it is not approved, well, it might

take a day or two longer.

JOURNALIST:

...(inaudible)....

PRIME MINISTER:

Look, wait wait wait.

JOURNALIST:

Kim Beazley is expected to announce the details of Labor's immigration

policy today which have been reported. What's your reaction to

that?

PRIME MINISTER:

Well, I haven't heard it yet.

JOURNALIST:

It's on the front page of The Australian.

PRIME MINISTER:

I'm perfectly happy to say that we altered the immigration policy

we inherited from the Labor Party. We altered it in three ways : we

reduced it, we introduced a two year waiting period, which the Labor

Party is against, and the other thing we did was to – we shifted

the emphasis away from family reunion in favour of skilled migration.

You can't have both. You can't simultaneously maintain the

previous level of family reunion and shift it in favour of skilled

migration. We are in favour of skilled migration, very strongly in

favour and we altered it, and we ended the imbalance that existed

under the former Labor Government's policy. As to what is in

Mr Beazley's announcement today, I don't know. I'll

have a look at it when it is released.

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