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Transcripts from the Prime Ministers of Australia

Howard, John

Period of Service: 11/03/1996 - 03/12/2007
Release Date:
19/05/1998
Release Type:
Interview
Transcript ID:
10707
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  • Howard, John Winston
TRANSCRIPT OF THE PRIME MINISTER THE HON JOHN HOWARD MP PRESS CONFERENCE - PARLIAMENT HOUSE

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Ladies and Gentlemen, good afternoon. The Australian Government

very warmly welcomes the announcement that was made by President

Soeharto in Jakarta a short while ago. In our view, the President

has laid down a very clear, orderly and statesman-like path for

the transition of power in Indonesia in a way that is more guaranteed

than any alternative to avoid bloodshed, to preserve intact the

constitutional processes of the Indonesian State, and also to give

hope to those many people within Indonesia who are looking for a

more open society. Australia looks forward to the elections being

held as quickly as possible and, as a result, the installation of

a new President and Vice-President in Indonesia. We recognise that

the country has passed through some very difficult times. We have

been more conscious than most of the great economic strain that

has been put upon Indonesia by events over recent months. And as

you know, we have worked hard to ensure that the world community

has taken a realistic attitude towards the problems of Indonesia

in responding to her economic difficulties.

We welcome the announcement, the interim announcement, by the President

that he would establish a new reform Cabinet and that that Cabinet

would be directed towards a number of issues including corruption

and anti-trust activities. We, of course, see that as very much

in his words as an interim measure because his announcement today

was very much an announcement about providing and orderly transfer

of power and about laying down the procedure whereby there could

be a replacement for both himself and Dr Habibie.

We do look forward to a speedy implementation of the changes. We

know that Indonesia has gone through an enormous amount of pain

and difficulty and we also believe that the steps that have been

announced this afternoon, which if responded to with good will and

cooperation by all those who exercise influence and assert authority

within Indonesia, will provide a proper and orderly basis for the

transfer of power.

It is a moment in, not only the history of Indonesia, but also in

the history of our region. Indonesia is the fourth most populous

nation in the world. It is our nearest neighbour. We have very close

ties with Indonesia, we care about the future of the Indonesian

people. As I said a few days ago, our policy goal always has been

to preserve and develop good relations between the people of Indonesia

and the people of Australia irrespective of who might hold authority

within Indonesia.

Throughout these past difficult weeks we have said constantly that

it is for the Indonesian people and for President Soeharto working

through the institutions of the Indonesian state to resolve the

difficulties the country now faces and to lay a pathway for the

future. It would appear on the basis of this afternoon's statement

that that has, in fact, been done. And it is a matter that I personally

welcome very much. I congratulate the President on the wisdom that

he's shown. I welcome his announcement. I believe it is appropriate.

I believe it is timely. I think it is wise and it shows that, at

a moment of greatest difficulty and challenge, he has put the interests

of the Indonesian people first.

I think it's also appropriate to reflect upon the enormous

contribution that President Soeharto has made to the Indonesian

people over the past 32 years. He took over at a time of enormous

internal strain and difficulty. He has turned the Indonesian economy

around and, although in recent weeks the focus has been on economic

difficulty in Indonesia, if you look at the sweep of the past 32

years, it can hardly be denied that President Soeharto has brought,

relatively speaking, additional prosperity to the people of Indonesia.

He has certainly presided over a significant reduction in levels

of absolute poverty in that country. He has restored the economic

repute on a number of occasions of the country that he has led.

And he has certainly provided a great deal of cohesion and unity.

Of course his administration has not been without either its critics

or its flaws, and as I've said on a number of occasions, although

Indonesia and Australia are very close and although we totally respect

the right of peoples in our region to run their own countries, according

to their own ideologies and their own beliefs, nonetheless we respect

fully the fact that our society is different, that we have different

attitudes, we have different approaches.

But within that understanding, I don't think anybody can deny

that if you look at the entirety of his 32 years in office, he has

certainly been a very positive force for progress, for modernisation.

He's been a formidable figure in regional forums. He's

been a person of great influence amongst the ASEAN countries and

the countries of our region. I have found in my own dealings with

him over the past two and a little years that he is a person who

values very much the relationship between our two countries. And

I have tried very hard, particularly in recent months, to ensure

that that relationship, on a country-to-country, people-to-people

basis, has been preserved fully because we do look to the future.

We have been, in recent times, a very good friend of Indonesia's.

We are a good friend of Indonesia's and we will be a good friend

of Indonesia's into the future. And we have demonstrated that

friendship in a very practical way and I am very proud of what the

Government has been able to do in that connection. It is in every

sense, a momentous development in the history of Indonesia. It demonstrates

a care and a sensitivity towards the welfare of his people which

is to be commended. And I know that all people who think positively

about Indonesia's future and are concerned about the welfare

of that country and the avoidance of strife and bloodshed will want

to see the reform arrangements and the transition arrangements which

the President announced this afternoon given effect to as soon as

possible.

JOURNALIST:

Prime Minister, obviously the time-frame is important. Do you have

any reservations about that time-frame if it turns out to be six

months, twelve months?

PRIME MINISTER:

I would not hope it took that long. I don't know what the precise

time-frame is. It's a little early to know. I have spoken a

few moments ago to our Ambassador in Jakarta, Mr McCarthy, who has

given me an on-the-spot assessment. The belief is that the matters

will be put in hand as soon as possible. I see the statement for

what it says, and that is, it makes it very clear that neither he

nor Dr Habibie will be candidates for re-election by the new Parliament.

It speaks of a transition. I saw his remarks about his own personal

future. I think the important thing is that he has laid down an

orderly way of transferring power in a very difficult situation

where rumours were flying around and different theories were being

put on different statements and different patterns of behaviour.

He has always been a man, as I have read him, who has placed a lot

of store on constitutional form and whatever observations people

might make about the institutions of government in Indonesia there

is a form, there is a procedure. He is having a new election. There

will be a new Parliament to choose a new President and a new Vice-President.

Now, based on what I have heard, I accept that but I naturally say

that the sooner that those processes are put in train the better.

JOURNALIST:

Prime Minister, one of his Ministers has already indicated that

the process could take up to two years. Would that be too long?

PRIME MINISTER:

Yes. Anything that long would immediately lack credibility.

JOURNALIST:

Should the IMF now reconsider the suspension of its loan programme?

PRIME MINISTER:

I think it's too early to make that judgement because it would

be wrong to see what has happened in the last few weeks in Indonesia

as being totally a product of what the IMF has done. Now I say that

as somebody who was rather critical of some of the earlier offerings

of the IMF and I remain of the view that the steps that Australia

took, my Government took, to soften the IMF package were justified

and, in fact, have been doubly justified by subsequent events. But

we shouldn't gainsay the fact that there has been a building

up of the pressure for change and the pressure for openness and

modernisation, so far as political institutions are concerned in

Indonesia, for some time and often, it's the conjunction of

a set of circumstances rather than one circumstance alone that brings

about change.

JOURNALIST:

Prime Minister, do you feel now that the transition can occur peacefully

or are you still concerned about the prospect of violence tomorrow

when students demonstrate and there will be soldiers in the street?

PRIME MINISTER:

I would hope that violence is now avoided and a lot will depend

upon the role played by the army, and can I say for all the critics

it has, that the Indonesian armed forces have played a very positive

role, generally speaking, in this whole issue and I think have probably

been a force for stability and a force for calm. One must always

worry in a volatile situation where there has been a loss of life

over the past few days but the early indications that I had a few

moments ago are that on the streets, so to speak, of Jakarta, the

President's announcement was accepted in a very positive way

and was seen to be genuine.

JOURNALIST:

Prime Minister, at two o'clock the Department of Foreign Affairs

upgraded its travel warning to effective leave if you can. Given

the President's announcement, should that be rescinded?

PRIME MINISTER:

No I don't think I would be, sort of, rescinding anything at

the present time, but Mr Downer may wish to say something about

that, but I would have thought that was the proper, normal, logical

precaution for the department to take at a time when the immediate

future was not certain.

JOURNALIST:

Will ...... remain in Darwin on standby?

PRIME MINISTER:

I think they do, don't they? Yes.

JOURNALIST:

Are you concerned about the lack of an obvious sense of a line of

succession to President Soeharto? Are you confident that if does

happen speedily, as you have expressed a wish, there is time to

put in place a successor with the experience and the capacity?

PRIME MINISTER:

I am sure there is. Just as I have not got into the business of

telling people publicly whether to stay or to go, as others have

felt free to do, I certainly haven't and I wouldn't have

thought it would have helped the relationship or would have been

appropriate. Just as I don't think I should have done that

equally I don't think I should be speculating about who should

be the new candidate, except to say that I think there will be people

there and I have no doubt that people will rise to the occasion

and that there are people of great ability, and the fact that you

have now got a process and you have a bit of time, I actually think

that's more likely to produce the best outcome than if things

had happened more precipitously.

JOURNALIST:

Prime Minister, do you think that the events in Jakarta have lessened

the pressures on the Australian dollar?

PRIME MINISTER:

I don't know that I want to talk about the level of the Australian

dollar. As you know, Mr Grant, it is not my wont either as Treasurer,

it wasn't my wont as Treasurer or as Prime Minister to talk

about the level of the dollar. I merely leave it at that.

JOURNALIST:

Prime Minister, do you see any plans in the future for more aid

for Indonesia?

PRIME MINISTER:

Well, it's something that we would keep under review. We have

for good reason, my Government and governments before it have invested

a lot politically, diplomatically, economically and I guess on a

people-to-people basis, emotionally in the relationship and in her

time of great need, we stuck by Indonesia and that need is still

there. Now, the question of whether there is any requirement for

further financial assistance is something that we will take as the

circumstances and the arguments come. I don't rule it out,

I don't rule it in. We have been very generous already. We

provided the aid package, and we of course also participated in

the IMF bail-out, and I don't think there's any doubt

that the Indonesians, whatever their views are about the regime

or the future, see Australia as a very reliable friend, and as being

a country that has a particular understanding of Indonesia and has

a sensitivity towards the views of the Indonesian people that I

hope is a little more finely tuned than that of some other countries.

JOURNALIST:

Mr Howard are you confident that the election process will be seen

as sufficiently democratic, that it is regarded as legitimate by

the broad cross-section of Indonesians?

PRIME MINISTER:

That's almost impossible for me to answer. I hope it is. There

will be enormous pressure on the Indonesians to conduct it in a

bona fide fashion. Once you've gone through something like

this, your society is permanently prised open, in a way, to world

inspection, that it hasn't been in the past. And I don't

think Indonesia, even if it wanted to, could go back to where it

was before these events occurred. It's like imagining that

the waterfront can go back to where it was before particular events

occurred.

JOURNALIST:

Can I ask a question on the timetable. Are you saying that six months

is about the maximum time that ....?

PRIME MINISTER:

Well, Tom, I didn't say that. I said that two years would be,

would outrageously lack credibility. I don't want to start

saying precisely what it is. I mean, I'm not getting into that.

But let me say this. I think it should be as soon as possible. The

sooner the better, the sooner the greater credibility. But if you

started getting into periods like one or two years, that would clearly

lack credibility.

JOURNALIST:

This calender year?

PRIME MINISTER:

I'm not going to answer that. I'm simply going to say

I want it as quickly as possible. And I think the sooner the better

and the quicker the more credibility, and the 12 months to two years

would plainly lack any credibility at all.

JOURNALIST:

Will you communicating with the President?

PRIME MINISTER:

Yes I will. I'll be sending him a personal message as soon

as this conference is over.

JOURNALIST:

What will you say?

PRIME MINISTER:

It will be a personal message, but it will certainly, amongst other

things, reflect the views that I expressed about his stewardship

of Indonesia over the past 32 years, the manner of his parting and

the way in which he has risen to the demands of statesmanship to

lay down a very orderly, I hope, peaceful path for the transition

of power in a country of 200 million people. It is no mean feat.

And what every other cynicism, or the cynicism of some may be, whatever

the criticisms are, whatever the flaws of the political process

in Indonesia are compared with those in other countries, or whatever

the democratic shortcomings may be, and all the other things that

we might say - given the enormity of the task, the diversity of

that country, the tremendous pressures, the economic strains, the

social dislocation, the social differences - given all of those

things, the President, the Army, and many others, have acquitted

themselves in my view very well, and if what he's laid down

is played out in accordance with a reasonable timetable, I think

history will recall that the manner of Soeharto's parting was

that of a Statesman who cared about the future of his people. Thank

you.

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