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Transcripts from the Prime Ministers of Australia

Howard, John

Period of Service: 11/03/1996 - 03/12/2007
Release Date:
13/05/1998
Release Type:
Interview
Transcript ID:
10645
Released by:
  • Howard, John Winston
TRANSCRIPT OF THE PRIME MINISTER THE HON JOHN HOWARD MP TELEVISION INTERVIEW WITH PAUL LYNEHAM ‘NIGHTLINE’ - CHANNEL NINE

E&OE..............................

LYNEHAM:

Prime Minister welcome again to Nightline.

PRIME MINISTER:

It's a pleasure.

LYNEHAM:

What are your briefings telling you about the prospect of major

social disorder in Indonesia?

PRIME MINISTER:

I am concerned about what is happening and the Indonesian Government

and armed forces must exercise restraint. Indonesia is going through

a very difficult time. The adjustment process to get its economy

in order is not easy for the people of Indonesia and they all deserve

our understanding and support but the Indonesian Government of course

has a crucial role. It's got to strike the balance between

maintaining order but also recognising the great deal of pain that

people are feeling and the natural desire of people in that situation

to vent their feelings.

LYNEHAM:

Is anyone inclined, do you think to tell President Soeharto, or

suggest to him that his troops might not use live ammunition against

students?

PRIME MINISTER:

Well it's not for me as Prime Minister of Australia to get

into the detail of riot response.

LYNEHAM:

Some will say there's all the evidence you need that the IMF

package was too tough.

PRIME MINISTER:

Well it was always going to be difficult, the adjustment process.

The package was not as tough as it might have been had it not been

for Australian persuasion and advocacy. I believe we got the balance

right. Unless Indonesia adjusts, then the rest of the world will

turn its back on that country and that will be tragic and the social

dislocation would be much greater than what is involved in responding

to the IMF package.

LYNEHAM:

Isn't it the fact that nobody really knows how serious the

Asian meltdown will ultimately be and that the Budget figures we

saw last night are certainly no worst case scenario?

PRIME MINISTER:

I think what we could say about the Budget figures last night is

that they were quite conservative. A lot of people have expressed

the view that 3 per cent growth is at the conservative end of the

range but that was the Treasury figure and we're not in the

business of ...

LYNEHAM:

Others would say it's optimistic.

PRIME MINISTER:

No, not many people have said that to me.

LYNEHAM:

Even if the three percent growth figure for next year is the right

one, we're still being told that unemployment is not going

to get much worse. Now how can that be?

PRIME MINISTER:

Well there's some in the pipeline as the Treasurer said earlier

today.

LYNEHAM:

But enough to...

PRIME MINISTER:

Yes, according to our advice, yes.

LYNEHAM:

The Government's next big card is tax reform. Should part of

that debate include the question of whether we really want say,

the lowest possible personal income tax or better hospitals, schools,

roads and other amenities?

PRIME MINISTER:

People want a new and a fairer tax system. There's no doubt

about that. We have a very clear message and we are going to do

that.

LYNEHAM:

Is your aim to try to make tax reform revenue neutral or are you

looking at those big projected budget surpluses...

PRIME MINISTER:

I am not going to, we will use the budget surplus in the way that

best advantages the Australian people. I am not going to at this

stage talk about whether tax reform is going to be revenue neutral

or this or that. The only proviso I will make is that we will not

be increasing the overall tax burden. I made that clear in August

of last year and that remains definitely our position. Everything

else is on the table.

LYNEHAM:

You've also made it clear that we will have time to debate

the tax plan before the election.

PRIME MINISTER:

Oh yes.

LYNEHAM:

Does time mean a couple of months?

PRIME MINISTER:

I am not going to specify what that time is. There will be adequate

time for people to digest what is in the package and ask questions

about it and people will be able to debate the wheres and why-fors

but I am not going to tie myself in advance of its release to a

minimum or a maximum amount of time. I am not in that business.

There is no reason for that.

LYNEHAM:

Has it really taken shape yet? Is there a document?

PRIME MINISTER:

We have done a lot of work, the Treasurer and I, and the broad architecture,

if I can again borrow the nomenclature of pure economic debate but,

has emerged but there is still quite a bit of work to go. I am,

along with the Treasurer, devoting an enormous amount of time to

it. It's a very important exercise. It's something to

which I am very strongly committed.

LYNEHAM:

You‘ve told your party room that this session of Parliament

could be the last. Are you trying to put the wind up Labor or are

you really being serious?

PRIME MINISTER:

No, I think it's just a normal piece of prudence. You shouldn't

read too much into that. I was just stating the obvious.

LYNEHAM:

But it does suggest that your thinking has become more finely focussed

on the months ahead, doesn't it and that seems to be mooted

around the building.

PRIME MINISTER:

Paul, Paul we are in a situation where if there is to be a double

dissolution, the Parliament has got to be resolved under the Constitution

by the 29th of October so it's now almost mid-May. Naturally

you get a little more focussed but time will take care of the date.

LYNEHAM:

And that really is an option is it, a double dissolution despite

the losses you might face in the Senate?

PRIME MINISTER:

How else do you get the Native Title legislation into law?

LYNEHAM:

So there's no bluff on the subject?

PRIME MINISTER:

No, I'm not bluffing. I will decide at the right time whether

or not I have a double dissolution but Paul, I am not kidding when

I say that as it seems to me now, the only way we can pass the Native

Title Amendment Bill into law is at a joint sitting following a

double dissolution. Now whether I end up having a double dissolution

will be influenced by a large number of factors but if you are looking

at the Native Title bill, that's the only way I can get it

through. I mean, imagine if I did what you suggested, come back

and they knock it back again and I go through this business again.

People will say, what's the country coming to? I can't

even resolve something like that.

LYNEHAM:

Prime Minister, thanks for your time.

PRIME MINISTER:

It's a pleasure.

ENDS

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